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Offline castor

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Originally posted by Lynx
Conclusion of this thread: background chatter and soundpoints are cool
If there exists an option to mute them, yes.
Though, It'd require a lot of work to produce "quality chatter", i.e. stuff that doesn't turn plain annoying after having the first 15 mins of it.

 

Offline Tolwyn

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If there exists an option to mute them, yes.
Though, It'd require a lot of work to produce "quality chatter", i.e. stuff that doesn't turn plain annoying after having the first 15 mins of it.


it is all the same as Alpha, you have a bandit on your tail...
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Offline Lynx

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Now that I think of it, it could be possible with just sexp scripting, too. But the annoying sexp limit would negate this, on the other hand.
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Background chatter and something else
Like I care guys.
Background Chatter is an unprofessional and amaturish peripheral hollywood threw in for 'effect' in movies.

WC = Basically a movie.

FS > WC for gameplay.

High Quality Chatter would take an extremely long time to record.
I doubt HLP have the resources to pull off genuine, high quality chatter, or even low quality chatter to the level of WC.

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As far as gameplay goes I don't think any of you will ever have authority over myself, since, no one in HLP will ever be capable of Challenging BD or Myself Duel, Coop, or 2v2 results wise ¬.¬

Lightspeed is the only person in our scale -- and he was trained, by us.

Lynx;
It wouldn't even be that hard, just script one SEXP to do two or more things.
Or have a longer recording after the SEXP including your background chatter o_O
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 

Offline Kazan

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Originally posted by QuantumDelta
oy....WCS fanbois....



yes, we're soo flaming homosexual ("boi" implies homosexuality for those of you who don't know)


like a million other freatures - if you don't like it don't use it




that kind of behavior pisses me off - whether it's WCer directing it at FSers or FSers directing it at WCers
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Offline Starman01

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Maybe not at all.  First It makes sense to active the chatter with a
script, and that SEXP would be rather small (but it would require FRED-
Changes too, and you know how long our list of requests is)

As for the SEXP-limit, I still don't understand why it would be so
problematic to raise it again, but on the other hand, when Kazan
has the autopilot-thing working, I will get rid of all those complex SEXP
for them, that would make some free again. That, and the usage of
message-list should be enough.

But I see another problem. The chatter must be of the wingman
which accompany you, and they are not always the same.
So how to set the correct voice-lines ? That for we need that
bumped up message.tbl again I guess.
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Offline Tolwyn

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Originally posted by QuantumDelta
Like I care guys.
Background Chatter is an unprofessional and amaturish peripheral hollywood threw in for 'effect' in movies.

WC = Basically a movie.

FS > WC for gameplay.

High Quality Chatter would take an extremely long time to record.
I doubt HLP have the resources to pull off genuine, high quality chatter, or even low quality chatter to the level of WC.

--

As far as gameplay goes I don't think any of you will ever have authority over myself, since, no one in HLP will ever be capable of Challenging BD or Myself Duel, Coop, or 2v2 results wise ¬.¬

Lightspeed is the only person in our scale -- and he was trained, by us.

Lynx;
It wouldn't even be that hard, just script one SEXP to do two or more things.
Or have a longer recording after the SEXP including your background chatter o_O


another WC hater... you want it the hard way? Fine. Let me take care of a few errands first.

Until then, shut up. And stop spaming this thread
« Last Edit: July 16, 2004, 02:23:37 pm by 639 »
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Tolwyn’s reputation for risk taking with other people’s lives was considered  to understate the facts. The admiral’s willingness to sacrifice anyone or anything to achieve his objectives had long been lauded in the popular press. He was “the man who got things done”.- Colonel Blair

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Offline Lynx

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You wouldn't even need new voice files, since as far as I remember, none of the pilots standard comms are specificly directed at Alpha 1.

As for chatter beeing unprofessional: While not beeing a pilot, I'm currently in the army, and I tell you it's normal to chatter in excitement during a meneuver. It doesn't get imideatly punished for beeing undisciplined, unless you overdo it. No one gives a **** about it. Really.

You don't know anything about anything QD.
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Offline Kazan

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Someone with moderator access in this section of the forum - I want quantum Delta's class C subnet
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Background chatter and something else
It does in the english god damn military.
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 

Offline Kazan

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QD Shut the **** up already, you're acting liek a ****ing ass, and I'm going to ban you from fs2netd for it
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Offline Lynx

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Anyone care for constructive criticism here?

EDIT: Kazan, calm down. The discussion is very funny.
Give a man fire and he'll be warm for a day, but set fire to him and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

 
Background chatter and something else
Sigh, Kazan.

Looks like you're be playing me on the REAL and UN****ED FS2 Via IP if you want to try, Tolwyn.
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 

Offline Tolwyn

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I thought about it when I was working on a few projects of mine, and I think I am being too lenient towards you. First of all, WC Saga is a game, if all the dialogue was taken from real life operation and doctrine, it wouldn't be interesting. After all, do you really want to hear "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot" over and over again?!?!?" Keep in mind it would be said in a way that it'll be totally undecipherable to people who aren't familiar with that jargon: "Inbound Angels 30, Hotel Charlie, Fox-Two". How can a regular person understand that? The WC Saga project is supposed to appeal to science-fiction fans, not military hard cores.

The most important thing is however: To fly a top-of-the-line jet fighter of today (and of course, of a fictional WC fighter of tomorrow) requires an individual with a well-balanced combination of intellect, maturity, discipline, talent, confidence, and ego. You have to be mature and quiet at times, but also, you have to have an ego (after all, it's you VS them, and you can’t lose). Read all of those WC novels, there are some chatter during it (of course, most of these FS guys didn't read the books; you appear to be one of those). In addition, fighters can communicate by secure laser link, so it doesn't mean that everything they say will be picked up on the command net.

And last, in response to your  "less chatter makes you disciplined" I can say that there are 4-5 members of the Saga Team who are military (both US and European), but they don't ever strut their credentials in public ever, for they don't want to attract attention to themselves, and by doing that they are professionals: they keep their off-time different from their other work
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Tolwyn’s reputation for risk taking with other people’s lives was considered  to understate the facts. The admiral’s willingness to sacrifice anyone or anything to achieve his objectives had long been lauded in the popular press. He was “the man who got things done”.- Colonel Blair

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-WC Saga's beta tester


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Offline Kazan

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"Sigh, QuantumDelta"

I have a low threshold for that kind of provincialism - especially right now while the existance of fs2 is threatened you're engaging in provincial attitudes about games


I won't ban you pending you stop acting like a ****ing ass
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Offline Tolwyn

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Sigh, Kazan.

Looks like you're be playing me on the REAL and UN****ED FS2 Via IP if you want to try, Tolwyn.


I fear you won't be able to play FS2 NET in the near future... And, dammit, grow up... How old are you? 10?
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Tolwyn’s reputation for risk taking with other people’s lives was considered  to understate the facts. The admiral’s willingness to sacrifice anyone or anything to achieve his objectives had long been lauded in the popular press. He was “the man who got things done”.- Colonel Blair

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Offline gevatter Lars

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As far as gameplay goes I don't think any of you will ever have authority over myself, since, no one in HLP will ever be capable of Challenging BD or Myself Duel, Coop, or 2v2 results wise ¬.¬


As if that would have anything to do with the topic...well.....


I would like to get the topic back into a more technical way.
Read -> Its not importend if you like it or not. We want to have it in our Mod and we are asking here for some help and ideas how to do it. Nothing very special...many people doing this kind of questions directed to the SCP team and/or other people here at HLP.

So I don't think that is naccesary to get in any way unfriendly at each other.
Quantum you said that you won't like...thats ok its your opinion.
On the other side please respect our wish to do what we would like to do...same goes for the other side.
Calm down....we don't need anyone to be angry. Both sides should keep a cool head and act more adult-like.
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Offline Tolwyn

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hey Quantum, you are digging your own hole. So will you stop ackting like a jack ass?
Wing Commander Saga: A Legend Is Reborn | WingCenter
 
Tolwyn’s reputation for risk taking with other people’s lives was considered  to understate the facts. The admiral’s willingness to sacrifice anyone or anything to achieve his objectives had long been lauded in the popular press. He was “the man who got things done”.- Colonel Blair

No errors, no random CTDs, just pure fun and proof of why getting hit with missiles is a bad thing.
-WC Saga's beta tester


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Offline Lynx

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Looks like my thread is sucking up stupidity like a black hole. Too bad.
Give a man fire and he'll be warm for a day, but set fire to him and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

 
Background chatter and something else
so DQ, are you saying that all pilots should be one man fleets and just do their thing without talking to other pilots? Are you saying that a squadron should be so unco-ordinated that it doesn't matter if a friendly is being shot at as long as you keep quiet? If so, I would never want to be your wingman.