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Offline vyper

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[q]Anyway, it's now time for a lot of behind-the-scenes action. Gotta love being an admin...[/q]

Doesn't Shrike have a whip or something for this sort of situation?
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Offline Zarax

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JarC, not to be polemic, but you cannot talk for everyone here, especially when talking about delicate aspects such as financial matters...
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Derek Smart wants to Develop FS3
Guys, guys, I found a VERY simple solution.

He makes the game.

Nobody buys it.

He looses lots of money.

Weeee! :nod:

 

Offline NeoHunter

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What if somebody shows him the source code the FreeSpace community has been building? Maybe he will buy it?

 

Offline Ransom

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I'm pretty sure he's noticed the SCP by now. And it's under the GPL, I don't think he can buy it.

 
Derek Smart wants to Develop FS3
As far as I am concerned, more people here would rather delete all information regarding the Source Code Developments rather than fork them over to Derek Smart. This much, I agree with. Especially if he claims he can grab everything worked on here for the past couple of years. Aint happenin! :ick:

 

Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by NeoHunter
What if somebody shows him the source code the FreeSpace community has been building? Maybe he will buy it?


Which one are you thinking about? Ferrium or the SCP itself?
I think he wouldn't buy it, since FreeSpace Open is FreeWare(you have to pay exactly $0 for it).

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As far as I am concerned, more people here would rather delete all information regarding the Source Code Developments rather than fork them over to Derek Smart. This much, I agree with. Especially if he claims he can grab everything worked on here for the past couple of years. Aint happenin! :ick:


There is no way we could hide it by now. And initially(if I remember correctly, this thread is too long, so I may be mistaken), we used the SCP to show what this community achieved. We tried to convince him to listen to us.

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Well, he can either buy the code from the community or nobody from the community ever buys his FreeSpace 3 then!:D

(post below, but answer here :D)

I think that not that will decide the number of sales.
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Offline NeoHunter

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Well, he can either buy the code from the community or nobody from the community ever buys his FreeSpace 3 then!:D

 

Offline Flipside

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Ok, rumour control.

Derek has stated specifically that he will NOT be using the Source Code for Freespace 2, and for that, I do not blame him, nor would anyone on the SCP.

Secondly, regardless of what race it is, the models and textures that we have created are our own copyright property. He would not be able to use them without written permission, I am sure he would follow correct protocol.

My own opinion is that Derek has said the following :-

You leave me alone to do my thing, I'll leave you alone to do yours. Personally, I think we should leave it at that.

 

Offline vyper

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:wtf: @ NeoHunter
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Offline TopAce

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...Secondly, regardless of what race it is, the models and textures that we have created are our own copyright property.


That's a good point, but who told he would want to use any of our models/textures/missions?
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"Truth" is the opinion of the majority which it can enforce on the minority. Members of the minority have two choices: join the bandwagon or think. Those who do not fall into line will be brutally crushed.
The tools to maintain order are: lies, double standards, and hypocrisy. The most powerful and the most insidious of them is hypocrisy

 
Derek Smart wants to Develop FS3
Yay!

But I probably wont buy the game unless people tell me its worthy of our attention. I just pray it doesnt turn out like Silent Threat.

 

Offline NeoHunter

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Originally posted by vyper
:wtf: @ NeoHunter


Stop that!

 

Offline TopAce

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[EDIT] I decided to post on a PM(it's a bit off-topic but not spam), erase this if you want to.
[EDIT 2] I asked how ST had turned out.
My community contributions - Get my campaigns from here.

"Truth" is the opinion of the majority which it can enforce on the minority. Members of the minority have two choices: join the bandwagon or think. Those who do not fall into line will be brutally crushed.
The tools to maintain order are: lies, double standards, and hypocrisy. The most powerful and the most insidious of them is hypocrisy

 
Derek Smart wants to Develop FS3
Very, very, crappy.

Also, very anti-climatic.

 

Offline Cyker

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I'm with you Vyper - This got boring very quick :)

BTW guys, the IP and the SCP are seperate - The SCP was owned by Volition (It was THEIR code) and they GPL'ed it and gave it to us (Yay [V]!).

Everything else 'tho, the story, the textures, the ships, the sounds, the voice acting, the cutscenes etc. is Interplay's.

DS could use and derive from the SCP if he wanted and we'd have no right to stop him (I wouldn't want to either - this would be against the whole spirit of the GPL), and he could charge for what he made if he wanted to.
However, he would HAVE to include the source code with anything he made with it, and THAT would automatically become GPL too, and anyone could fork it and mod it and release their own stuff based on it as long as they release the code too.

This is the essence of the GPL - To keep the source open and free for all.

 

Offline TopAce

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This is OK, but that's GPL?
My community contributions - Get my campaigns from here.

"Truth" is the opinion of the majority which it can enforce on the minority. Members of the minority have two choices: join the bandwagon or think. Those who do not fall into line will be brutally crushed.
The tools to maintain order are: lies, double standards, and hypocrisy. The most powerful and the most insidious of them is hypocrisy

 
Derek Smart wants to Develop FS3
my question exactly.

only I would get flamed for asking. Thank you.

 

Offline NeoHunter

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Erm...guys, what is GPL? I haven't been on this forums for a long time.

 

Offline Inquisitor

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Irrelevant to the actual license acquisition. And the SCP is not actually GPL'd, it's close, but it's not GPL.

http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
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