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Which Destroyer would you Rather be onboard

Orion
17 (26.6%)
Hecate
7 (10.9%)
Hades
11 (17.2%)
Typhon
4 (6.3%)
Hatshesput
25 (39.1%)

Total Members Voted: 63

Voting closed: August 01, 2004, 12:38:58 pm

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Offline karajorma

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Originally posted by Raa
Because the AI broadsides... and also if you get hit from the side, you're ship'd be screwed with forward weaponry. It's called balance. :p


Not to mention that you'd be up slack alley if they managed to take out your engines.
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Offline Ford Prefect

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Y'know what I don't get? Why the hell do the Shivan capital ships have flak guns? Does flak really seem like a Shivan weapon? And what's more, they somehow added it to their ships at the same time the Alliance developed it. What the crap?
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Offline DaBrain

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The shivan flak works different... It just looks like the terran flak.

(To confuse the Terrans. You know the "I dont get it" stuff.)
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What the !@# happened here?
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Offline karajorma

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Looks like it added the last line of my sig to the next post.

Very odd.
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Offline Taristin

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Originally posted by Liberator
I like the Typhon.  It's the most aestetically pleasing, hell on fighters and with a little retrofit,(twice the turrets and beams and all that goes with it) the match of any ship in the fleet


That's what I voted for, too. But then, I'm a softy for Vassies. ;)
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What would you Rather have on your side
Vasudan cap ships are ugly. They need a new paint job. The brown texture is just plain ugly.:ick:
They need a shivan-type paint, but in green, with some shiny spots like the vasudan support ship.
I really don´t get it why so many voted for the Hatshepsut, it´s awfull!!


In a bit of unrelated question, does anyone know why the hell do the flaks and lasers go across the hull of the ship they are on??
It´s a real drag, to have a turret firing at you from the other side of the ship, and the shots go through the hull and get you...
It happens on every cap ship, or large size ship.
How do you fix that?
:hopping:
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Offline Taristin

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Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
Vasudan cap ships are ugly. They need a new paint job. The brown texture is just plain ugly.:ick:
They need a shivan-type paint, but in green, with some shiny spots like the vasudan support ship.
I really don´t get it why so many voted for the Hatshepsut, it´s awfull!!


Umm. No.
FS1 Vasudans > FS2 Vasudans
The Support ship is one of the ugliest things in the game. And that's including those horrible pieces of debris that are constantly flying past your screen.
And they chose the Hatshepsut because of it's superior weaponry, layout and armor plating.


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In a bit of unrelated question, does anyone know why the hell do the flaks and lasers go across the hull of the ship they are on??
It´s a real drag, to have a turret firing at you from the other side of the ship, and the shots go through the hull and get you...
It happens on every cap ship, or large size ship.
How do you fix that?
:hopping:


You use FS_open. Otherwise you learn to deal with this.
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Originally posted by Raa

The Support ship is one of the ugliest things in the game. And that's including those horrible pieces of debris that are constantly flying past your screen.
 


Well, then we agree to disagree, right? :D
I don´t like the colour and style of the vasudan ships. And although the model of the vasudan support ship is "odd", to say the least, the texture is not ugly. In another ship, the same type texture could present good results. It´s the model of the ship that looks bad.
:ick:

But then again, to each his own. Personnal tastes are not debatable.
:)

As for the Hatshepsut, the thread subject was wich ship you would like to serve in, permanently,  and armament is just one of the factors. I for one would not serve in an ugly ship if i had the choice, even if it meant the loss of a couple of turrets. After all, you would spend the rest of your life there, so you better choose something that pleases the eye aswell.
If you had to choose a car to live in for the rest of your life, would you choose a Volkswagen with a 500hp engine, or would you choose the Ferrari with a 400hp engine? I would gladly let go of a few hp for the chance of driving something really better looking. Wouldn´t you?
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Except the difference here isn't HP, it's a better chance of survival.

 
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Except the difference here isn't HP, it's a better chance of survival.


Yeah, but if we go by firepower alone, there are many other ships with far more firepower, than the vasudan ship.
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But of the choices given, the Hatshepsut has the best firepower and armour combination.

 

Offline Kosh

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You use FS_open. Otherwise you learn to deal with this.


Uh, I use FSO and I still see it happen with the 07-20-2004 build. Appearently it is not fixed enough


Oh, and I voted for the Hades. 4X the hitpoints of an Orion or Hecate with 4 BGreens in addition to that.
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Offline Janos

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I don't even know it. I just thought it might have. Apparently I was right? I just picked it up because I like the concept and design of the vac cleaner. Blue is indeed superior to red.

As to return to the question I asked before (yep, I'm too lazy to quote two people, Raa and karajorma), the point was that the basic design of FS ships seems a little weirdo.
Hard-hitters, like EAD Lindos, when correctly deployed, can devastate corvettes and even other destroyers in a hartbeat. THe only problem is how to deploy them. If you throw a Lindos inside a fiery Shivan BFRedfest, it won't stand a chance - as stated before, as soon as engines fail or other ship manages to flank it, you can kiss it goodbye - you kinda have to prevent it from happening, hence the cruisers and other turtles which can take beating but not focus fire.
If you, however, get in there fast, from far away, hit the opposers with impunity and retain stand-off stance, the enemies are in trouble. Even though battles in FS are pretty fighter/bomber -oriented and capships are more fire support (flak, AAA) than the heavy-duty guys, it kinda amazes me that there are no ships that have most of their anti-capship weapons - beams, namely - in their forward arc of fire. Indeed, these ships are in trouble when flanked, so some kind of balance should be found. But as a tactical asset, where you can deploy GTCv Reyena -style corvette to quickly take care of that Moloch, focused firepower is just ugly. It gets the job done, quickly and efficiently. That's about it.

The difference between corvettes and destroyers in plain FS2 non-mod universe is that of scale - their roles are not that different. Both ship classes are basically just "throw them into the battle, beam-free-all, hope someone gets out alive, let them flak the enemy" cannon fodder. Corvette in canon FS was originally designed to battle powerful Shivan capships. It seems like getting close to one of them and then shoot one or two beams into SD Demon would be a suicide - and it quite often is.
lol wtf

 

Offline Janos

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goddamn double post, I suck at the Internet.
lol wtf

 

Offline Setekh

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I'm an oldie, I've gotta go for the Orion. :)
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Offline Gloriano

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Well I say Orion....
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Offline Col. Fishguts

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<- me says Hecate, since with a proper texture job it would look terrific.
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Offline Hippo

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Orion
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Offline aldo_14

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Orion.  If all else fails, it's got by far the spikiest front for ramming stuff.......