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Offline 01010

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****ing muslim they deserve to die.


Twat.
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Offline Gank

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Great, Osama Bin Gank raises his voice in jihaaaaad.  Freakin' lovely.

Ah shut up ya little turd, three years ago you'd have been cheering on the fearless chechnian freedom fighters in their fight on the godless commie russians, but now you got a new enemy. :rolleyes:

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Here's a news flash for ya:  In war, people do crappy things.  Always.  Everyone.  Interesting that you'll mention this little nugget of information but you'll leave out what the chechen rebels do to their own populace, in addition to enemy Russian soliders and civilians from nearby towns.  And now there's this stunt with the school....

We were talking about the russian armys actions, not the chechnians. there was no need to mention their acts of terrorism, thats what the whole threads about. :rolleyes:

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No, if you've got to do a balance of guilt argument, your terrorist buddies have it way stacked against them.


Afraid not mate, if you want to count it by the numbers the Russians have the balance, not to mention the fact that it was the Russians who started the war. Plus men like Barayev, Basayev and Khattab would never have came into the positions of power they have (had in Barayev and Khattabs cases) had it not been for the russian invasion. So no, the guilt lies with Russia, they started the conflict, they brought the Islamists into power, indirectly or directly in some cases and one act of terrorism does not change this.

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****ing muslim they deserve to die.

So do you.

 

Offline Gloriano

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****ing muslim they deserve to die.


Are you stupid or something:rolleyes: there is lot Muslims
that hate terrorist, my friends that are muslims hate that what terrorist are doing for Muslim culture and believes.
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****ing muslim they deserve to die.


prize A twat

 

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Consider we started bombing Kosovo before any ethnic cleansing began, I'd be careful about using that argument.


The two situations aren't identical but the fact remains that the ethnic Albanians were in the majority in Kosovo. So surely by Rictor's own logic on this thread it sounds like he's saying that when they decided to declare independance Serbia had no right to try to send in the tanks.

I'd find that interesting considering the number of times Rictor has complained about the UN strikes to stop the tanks.
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he's being sarcastic,
and I think he's implying Americans are racists.


Still he needs to STFU
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he's being sarcastic,
and I think he's implying Americans are racists.


He should be more careful about how he says it. Especially considering the fact that many of us remember that he's an israeli.
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Offline Fear

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i hate that culture completley ... they belive that if they will kill for thier god they will go to heaven, what the **** is this religon?

im not saying all muslims are ****ed as the terrostis, just mad drove me to wirte that massge. less than a week before they killed 13 people in a bus in israel, a 3 years old boy died.....god... the bus was right infront of my brother... you live in your reality , i wish i wasnt in mine.

if i offended anybody im sorry, i just get mad easily. specaily with this subject.

 

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[q]I'd find that interesting considering the number of times Rictor has complained about the UN strikes to stop the tanks.[/q]

Kara, my good man, this argument takes us down the road of "the UN/Nato should have bombed British forces in Ireland". It's a dangerous road. Non-interference _should_ be part of our culture these days - Star Trek had it right 40 odd years ago.
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Offline vyper

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[q]less than a week before they killed 13 people in a bus in israel,[/q]

Yeah and not so long ago your so-called Army buried one of my citizens alive - a lovely young female British student who did nothing other than make a peaceful protest in front of an IDF bulldozer.

God aren't you people saints.
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Offline ionia23

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SO much for open minded liberalism.  Someone told me I am as bad as the terrorists.  Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Whoopie doo.  The guy made an off-the-cuff remark that he most certainly didn't mean.  How about you self-righteous bastards get over it already, or is your so-called "give peace a chance" routine just a bunch of bunk?
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Offline Fear

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tell me what the hell you want from me?

 

Offline ionia23

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Originally posted by Fear
tell me what the hell you want from me?


You already did all that was necessary.  An explanation, a retraction, and an apology for a statement made in probably justified anger.  If that isn't good enough for anyone else, then they've got issues well beyond what can be resolved here.

Don't sweat it.
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I think he wants you to **** off... Just a guess, he might be showing schoolgirl affection.
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Kara, my good man, this argument takes us down the road of "the UN/Nato should have bombed British forces in Ireland". It's a dangerous road. Non-interference _should_ be part of our culture these days - Star Trek had it right 40 odd years ago.


You miss my point. I'm not arguing about whether the UN should have acted or not. It's just that I've never heard Rictor say once that the tanks shouldn't have been moving in the first place.

When it's Russian tanks I've heard Rictor say several times that they should let the region be independant if they want to be. I've never once heard him say the same thing about Kosovo. In fact I've often heard him say the exact opposite and describe the KLA as terrorists.

In other words he makes it sound like the Serbians were justified to send tanks into Kosovo.

This is a complete reversal of his stance on Russian activities and I'd like to hear his explaination for it.
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Offline Fear

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[q]less than a week before they killed 13 people in a bus in israel,[/q]

Yeah and not so long ago your so-called Army buried one of my citizens alive - a lovely young female British student who did nothing other than make a peaceful protest in front of an IDF bulldozer.

God aren't you people saints.


indeed, but you have to understand i dont always support my army. they dont reflect my opnions, basiclly they make mistakes.
unlike the the arabs we can say we made a mistake.

in my country im in the "right" ... its the largest basiclly its says "if you are an arab get the hell from my country but if you want to live in peace we dont mind."

 

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Offline Gank

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I'd find that interesting considering the number of times Rictor has complained about the UN strikes to stop the tanks.


They werent UN they were Nato, UN approval was only gained after they happened.

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Non-interference _should_ be part of our culture these days

No it shouldnt, however interference should be better thought out than it usually is, in Kosovos case strategic bombing of Serbia did nothing to halt ethnic tensions in the region, it fuelled them instead. Putting the KLA in power didnt exactly do much good for the situation either. Interference is ok, as long as its done the right way, unfortunatly it never really is.

btw the North did have a pro-union majority and still does afaik, so the situation isnt exactly the same. Plus you had the fact that British troops were actually deployed to protect the nationalists, not unionists confusing things.

 

Offline Fear

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no really what the hell do you want?