[Kosh]

http://news.com.com/Copyright+Office+pitches+anti-P2P+bill/2100-1027_3-5345528.html?tag=nefd.top

Read all about. Discuss.

[Rictor]

I have not yet read the article, but my hunch is Orrin Hatch has something to do with this...let's see if I'll be right.

edit: YESSSSS!

Seriously, that man is like a tech Nazi or something. He also does a very poor job of hiding the huge truck fulls of money that Hollywood lobbyists send his way.

[Kosh]

He's only the indrustries henchman. This is why all campaign contributions should be illegal in this country.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Read:
Piracy: Killing the music industry...

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[Rictor]

the music industry, evolution and consumerr choice, by Greg Gaffin (singer for Bad Religion and really brilliant guy)

http://www.badreligion.com/news/essays.php?id=7

[Kosh]

The music industries refusal to change with the times will cause its own destruction. Of course it is the american tradition to not take any responsibility for your actions.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]I really wouldn't worry about it to be honest, as somebody once said; for every one person they have trying to secure or restrict music there are 100 trying to bypass it.

Given the fact that computer users contain a rather smart crowd and that data can be copied at effectively no cost almost infinitely the music industry and their money hoarding days will not last too long in the big picture.
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[redmenace]

well regaurdless of campaign contributions and unethical motivations. the US government has the responsibility and the right to enforce intellectual rights. Those who steal should be help responcible for their actions. The recording industry will eventually learn a lesson only after they get it through to them the only means possible: loss in sales and opportunities.

[an0n]

I feel I should point out that if you download music, you're a ****ing thief.

No two ways about it. It's stealing.

I'm fine with that.

[Ford Prefect]

[an0n]

Pfff.

I prefer this picture:

Kirsty Gallacher:

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by an0n
I feel I should point out that if you download music, you're a ****ing thief.

No two ways about it. It's stealing.

I'm fine with that.

Of course, IIRC, the original version of the legislation was so vague you could use it to sue pencil companies. After all, pencils can copy copyrighted material....

[Corhellion]

4 letters: HOTU!

...it's legalized stealing...which is alright...cause it's legal...and all that...*cough*

...oh look a way out!

*flees*

[Nuke]

im a communist, does that mean i can download mp3s?



and technically piracy is not steeling to the same degree as jacking somones car. it used to be impossible, in the days of tape and vinal (when you could get an album for less than $5) to copy music and preserve the quality of the original in the copy. then the cd comes around and now you can make a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy and it will still be as good as the original. technically speaking a digital copys could be made into infinity. and in most industries as the production costs go down (with the advancement of technology), the retail price goes down. why is it that cd burneres get cheaper and the price of music/videogames/software goes up. digital data could be mass produced into infinity with a minimum of copying costs and yet they ask for $15 for a cd $50 for a game and $100^ for most software they have been robing us for years and i think some payback is much deserved. they should have thought about piracy when they invented the cd.

[Liberator]

Originally posted by Kosh
He's only the indrustries henchman. This is why all campaign contributions should be illegal in this country.

I don't think I need to point out the stupidity of this statement, not to mention that it is completely against the first amendment, which protects Political Speech above all others.

How exactly would candidates of less financial stature than Donald Trump pay for the ungodly amount of TV/Radio time they need to reach they're constituency?

The Kerry campaign(I use this as an example for you socialists out there) has spent somewhere in the area of $40 million on ads in the last 6 months, not to mention the free advertising that the "Mainstream Media" gives him.

A better example, let's say you have a particular candidate for public office that you feel is a bad choice, let's use Kerry again since he's got a situation exactly like this going on right now.  Mr. Kerry has based his campaign up to this point on his military service in Vietnam in late 1967 and early 1968, all four and a half months of it.  Now I will celebrate him for his service, but I cannot overlook his record since.  Especially when he all but lied to a Congressional commitee on his return.  But, to stay on topic, his compatriots from the swiftboat squad he was in and several of his own crewmates, who probably know him better than his wife, feel that he is not fit to be Commander-in-Cheif of the United States armed forces.  They have banded together to publicize the portions of his record that he has apparently fudged on a bit.  Now whether you agree with them(and me and a lot of other people), or not, it is the first of their enumerated rights that they be able to do that without obstruction or impedence.

McCain/Feingold is am unconstitutional travesty of a law that George Bush should never have signed.

[redmenace]

Happy Birthday Ford Prefect by the way.

[Ford Prefect]

Merci beaucoup!

[Bobboau]

how is someone of less financial stature get into office now, what would the diference be? none, you still prety much need to be an ubber rich to get a shot at it now. what I think should be done is if you can get a petition with 1% of the nation suporting you you will be given a government mandated amount of funding, no other funding would be permitted and both sides would have the same amount of cash on hand so it would be more on how they use it that how much they have.

alowwing ubber rich to fund this crap is a violation of free speach 0.1% of the population gets it's voice heard and the rest of us have to pick between the lesser of two evils.

lets put it this way, what if;
congressmen were to stand before a crowd of there constuancy and have everyone yell at them as loud as they could, what they could hear and make out over the white noise would become law. now one day some guy comes in with a 50mw would speaker and starts saying things like "gay marrage for all" "abolishon of all religon" "redistobution of wealth" and all that and it got enacted simply become one guy out of a million has the voice of god working for him.
I don't know about you but I'd like it if I had an equal voice in the future of this nation as Mr. Sorose, but of corse as we both know, I don't and neither do you. and it will always be this way if people are allowed to give out as much of there fortune to a politition as they want. becose not everybody has that kind of funding, and it silences our voice.

[Ford Prefect]

Well-said. I whole-heartedly agree.

[Nuke]

****ing politicians! they are the true thieves! software pirates have far better morals