[Deepblue]

I maintain neutrality, but do to the number of political ( ) threads popping up there might as well be balance.

Uno:
http://hundredpercenter.blogspot.com/2004/10/bloggers-catch-kerry-cheating.html

Dos:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20041006/ap_on_el_pr/debate_web_sites_1&printer=1

Tres:
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2004/10/06/news/local/top/abortion.txt

[vyper]

Don't get me started on the issues of abortion, specifically Pro-life nutcases.

[aldo_14]

This is all piddly ****, though.  The political threads are about proof of the UK & US governments lying to go to war, this is....what?  A slip of the tongue, a blog and someone who's not good at clarifying his opinion.

[Rictor]

oh please. look the debates aren't really debates.

besides

[aldo_14]

Yeah, the 'analysis' of the Kerry-Bush debate was actually posted on the ABC (?) website the morning beforehand, before being suddenly pulled.  It's as bogus as a 3 pence piece

[redmenace]

Originally posted by vyper
Don't get me started on the issues of abortion, specifically Pro-life nutcases.

Don't get me started on the issues of abortion, specifically Pro-Choice Butchers.

[Kazan]

Originally posted by Deepblue

Uno:
http://hundredpercenter.blogspot.com/2004/10/bloggers-catch-kerry-cheating.html

refuted - even Faux News isn't trying to claim it anymore


it was a pen

[Kazan]

Originally posted by redmenace


Don't get me started on the issues of abortion, specifically Pro-Choice Butchers.

Don't get me started on people who don't understand the law, and are going to try and force their UNQUALIFIED OPINION down people's throats forcing those persons to give up their bodily integrity for another


don't claim to be a pro-lifer either, you are pro-death penatly (i am neutral on it) so shuve it

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No Previous Decisions can deny you your rights, you have the RIGHT to bodily integrity and you cannot be forced to give that up for another ("Bad Samartian Doctrine")

The only way they can give up that right is _voluntarily_ _temporarily_ in not getting an abortion

Having Sex does not constitute forfeiture of their right
Not using a contraceptive/contraceptive failure does not constitute forfeiture of their right

[redmenace]

Don't get me started on those that wish to sacrifice a human life because it is not convenient for them[thee aborter].

[Kazan]

fetuses are not a "human life" because they are not their own life - they cannot survive outside the body of an individual (their mother) so they are not an individual

[Kamikaze]

redmenace: You pro-life folks are just as willing to sacrifice lives. A young girl who is forced to not abort a baby due to anti-abortion law is going to have a terrible life and/or suffer a ton of pain.

[redmenace]

SHE MADE HER CHOICE. NOW PAY THE PRICE.



Now if she is raped that is different. But not consensual sex.

All right this getting out of hand.....I am going to stop posting on this subject.

[Kazan]

you are ignorant of the particulars of the law

Originally posted by Kazan

Having Sex does not constitute forfeiture of their right
Not using a contraceptive/contraceptive failure does not constitute forfeiture of their right

[Rictor]

yeah, cut it out guys, this arguement goes nowhere

[Deepblue]

"staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium, table or other structure to be used by the candidate in that debate."

It wasn't a pen.

@Rictor, Orwellion times? Thats a veeery neutral source.
That kind of thing can be easily doctored. Someone reaching his hand into a pocket and pulling something out cannot. I am almost willing to bet that the video does not include that "T" shape.

Abortion... murder is a greater crime than death and people should be responsible, however choice is important

Heres another thing I found interesting:
During the election universities liberal clubs/groups have been putting up signs that say essentialy "stop the draft - vote Kerry."

THIS IS A HOAX! There is a draft bill in congress however it was sponsored by two democrats. Congress recently had a vote on the bill to determine its likelihood of succeeding. It was shot down by a 200 to 1 margin (400 something to 2).

[Rictor]

the picture is on many websites, I just linked to this one. Mostly blogs have it. But the picture is an original, unedit screen-capture

http://www.isbushwired.com/

though that wasn't my point. My point was: who cares, the debates are scripted to some degree anyway.

[Kazan]

Deepblue: he still didn't cheat - and all the whacko rightists have stopped trying to claim it

[01010]

"If you're so pro-life then do me a favour, don't block med clinics, lock arms and block cemetaries. I wanna see how fucking commited you are to this premise"

[Deepblue]

Um, I wouldn't be surprised if Bush was wired, not with a microphone of something of that nature, but health moniters/GPS trackers and other equipment used for security. I really doubt that he was cheating do to his lackluster performance (Kerry looked/sounded more proffesional despite the fact he was INCREDIBLY wrong about some issues (bilateral talks? wth is he thinking?)).

EDIT: Concerning the debates... I listened to it both on radio and saw it on the TV. When I was listening on the radio Bush seemed to be doing better, however when I watched on the TV, Kerry seemed to do better. Interesting no?

[Mongoose]

Hey Kazan, try this...the law is wrong.