[Flipside]

Someone post this guy a link to Bonobo monkeys for the love of God.

And mankind is constantly evolving, no species has ever been in control of it's own diversity, so mankind will continue to evolve, whether we like it or not. What you are suggesting is for a genetic mutation, if that is what you think it is, to jump between completely non-related families. That doesn't happen.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TrashMan


I'm just interested to see where you're getting this from? You are waaay stretching the menaning of my words.

I never said gays were "bad" people, nor did I say they have to go to hell (well..maby if it is their own personal choice)

EDIT;actually, you're worse than I thought... comparing homosexuality to having a '3rd arm growing out of your arse'.  So, you don't accept it under your moral code or whatever personal bias you choose, and it becomes excusable to treat these people as being less than human - 'not normal' in your own words.

I'll tell you what, I'd prefer to be a fair, free-thinking and tolerant person rather than 'normal'.   I'd rather not be another mindless sheep, ready to swallow up and espouse the most bigoted, biased ****e because someone told me that's the way I should think, and damned be the evidence.

Originally posted by TrashMan
As far as animal homosexuality - that's plain crap. What's the evidence there? A picture of a squirrel on a squirrel? What does that tell you? For all you know the squirrel below coul very well be female. Or even if it were male, can you prove that there is actual "penetration"? If there's no penetration, there can be no talk about homosexualism....
And guess what - there is none...

Bulgarian seeks redress over gay pig
and, more seriously;
Aussie boffins probe lesbian cows
The Volume of a Sexually Dimorphic Nucleus in the Ovine Medial Preoptic Area/Anterior Hypothalamus Varies with Sexual Partner Preference (study on brain structure of gay sheep) NB: requires subscription to read full text, see for  a bit of explanation
Page containing information on bonobo bisexual behaviour (see section title 'Love, Not War'

Also... black swans have been observed to form lasting male-and-male relationships, a pair of main chinstrap penguins were observed to form a lasting relationship and raise an egg at the New York zoo (multiple occurances of this have apparently been observed)

Hell, just spend 5 minutes to do some research next time - I pulled this off memory and wikipedia.  I'm sorry, but if you really think that animal behaviourists can't tell a male from a female and rely on pulling together a conclusion from a single observation, then you're an idiot.

Originally posted by TrashMan
So, yes, I belive being gay is a sickness, and like I said it most likely is.

I don't hate gays, actually I do belive most of them are nice people, but that's not the point.

Eh?  You basically said they were sick and defective humans just because you think so- if that's not hate-stroke-bigotry I don't know what is.

[Flipside]

Ok, fine, let me ask some of you a question :-

IF I were gay, and Sharon was really Simon, then all of a sudden, in the view of half the small minded, fear obsessed, anally retentive ****s on this forum then all of a sudden I go from being a passably skilled modder and texturer who has been working on a whole new race as well as atmospheric flight and turn into some kind of 'defarlment in the fayce of Gord'

Way to be part of a community.

Sometimes you people make me sick.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Flipside
Ok, fine, let me ask some of you a question :-

IF I were gay, and Sharon was really Simon, then all of a sudden, in the view of half the small minded, fear obsessed, anally retentive ****s on this forum then all of a sudden I go from being a passably skilled modder and texturer who has been working on a whole new race as well as atmospheric flight and turn into some kind of 'defarlment in the fayce of Gord'

Way to be part of a community.

Sometimes you people make me sick.

Just be glad it's a fairly small number of small minded, fear obsessed, anally retentive ****s.

[Flipside]

Indeed, certainly not enough to let them drive me away with their views

BTW : I may or may not be Gay, I'm not going to say, and, quite frankly, it's no-ones business

[Bobboau]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html#main

[Bobboau]

Originally posted by TrashMan

I suppose your belefs are 100% objective, based purely on logic?

yes
go on chalenge me.

[Bobboau]

Originally posted by TrashMan
Tell me something else, if you mutaded to have a third arm coming from your ass, would you try to remove it? Wouldn't you want to be normal?

that doesn't happen, or when it does it's generaly not isolated and caused by exposure to something that causes problems so severe that what ever it was dies at birth... oh, wait a sec you mean that a mutation would occur and an arm would magicly pop out of my ass right now, oh, you realy have no understanding of what the hell were tallking about do you?
but this this does sort of doge your question, if I have some change in my life like that yeah I would probly have it removed, but if I was born that way I might verywell find the conveneience for ass wipeing sake useful and love my appendage. so it sort of depends on if people through rocks at me becose of it from an early age or not.

[Bobboau]

you are not alowed to read this, don't even think about clicking, as it is not permited

[Clave]

I heard that everyone is 30% gay....

[Bobboau]

well any time someone trys to do any research on it they get atacked as trying to 'justify immoral behavior', and shot down, so we don't realy know

[Flipside]

Don't see what the problem is, those that don't want to believe will simply do their normal trick, stick their heads in the sand and scream 'Not True! Not True!! Waaaaagh!'.

[Clave]

Yah, but it's fun to spread the rumours, just to freak them...

[Bobboau]

the problem is when they pull there heads out of the sand they try to write laws based on there ignorant views. if it wasn't for that I could not posably care less.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Clave
I heard that everyone is 30% gay....

How would you measure that sort of thing, though?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by aldo_14
How would you measure that sort of thing, though?

Attach electrodes to the head and measure the simulation level when shown pictures of women and men in vary shapes, sizes and states of undress?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by karajorma


Attach electrodes to the head and measure the simulation level when shown pictures of women and men in vary shapes, sizes and states of undress?

Yeah, but but but but... what if they're very manly women or womanly men?

Smartarse

[Clave]

Scary revelations all round!

[Flipside]

Oh, I'm sure that when Judgement day comes around and God finds out that people have decided that they can tell the Good wheat from the Bad far better than He can, that he will be very forgiving.

After all, didn't Jesus say something about not Harvesting the crop until it was complete?

Edit : Oh, and to say that Evolution is something seperate from random genetic mutation is a mistake. Evolution is random genetic mutation.

[Bobboau]

no... random genetic mutation is a smal component of evolution.