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Offline Rictor

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Kaz, let me ask you something. Why are you rallying against religion as if though it were the sole source of blind faith and ignorance in the world? Nationalism, devoid of any religious sentiment, can be just as threatening. Would it really make that much of a difference if Bush ditched all the stuff about God but kept pandering a small-minded nationalist agenda? Many tyranies have been explicitly aethiest, but all that ends up happening is that other people and ideas fill the gap: the leader, the army, the greatness of the nation and righteousness of the cause etc etc.

edit: just to clarify, I'm not really pro-relgion (and not anti-religion either) and I certainly don't support the Christian Right, but it seems odd to me to focus to intently on that one aspect of the problem, when there are plently of other, and more crucial, factors.
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Look like theyre in the middle of nowhere to me....
Sure if they were in a large population center but not this.

 

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Look like theyre in the middle of nowhere to me....
Sure if they were in a large population center but not this.


The last one, perhaps. But the first two are just sky...

 

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Meh, religion is just the catalyst for it, it doesn't play any true role in the proceedings, but it's used as the grease to allow these policies to slide along.

Take this whole slide back in time to believing in creationism. Now, I know there are people on this board who believe in that, and your beliefs are your own, but my own personal belief is that by keeping the people uninformed, you can get away with more.

 

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[B***az, let me ask you something. Why are you rallying against religion as if though it were the sole source of blind faith and ignorance in the world?[/B]


it's the single biggest



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Nationalism, devoid of any religious sentiment, can be just as threatening.


yes it can, the germans know this well and their nationalism-phobic


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Would it really make that much of a difference if Bush ditched all the stuff about God but kept pandering a small-minded nationalist agenda?


it would make me less angry - because then they're not trying to deny me my right to be free of religious persecution, but it would still be angry and still work against bush

but i could contain my anger much better


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Many tyranies have been explicitly aethiest, but all that ends up happening is that other people and ideas fill the gap: the leader, the army, the greatness of the nation and righteousness of the cause etc etc.


indeed, however it's much more difficult to exploit atheism, especially true atheism


there are many people who claim to be atheist who are actually not since they're still spiritual
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You know, ever since this new language filter was introduced, there been ***'s popping up all over the place, it's getting harder and harder to understand the meaning of the posts :(

 

Offline Rictor

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Hey, at least bush isn't censored anymore.
Hehe, those were the days.

 

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did you read that thing in the first pic saying: Paid by Arizona citizens
****. nobody here in cro would do that because we would kill him
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:lol: :lol:

Awesome name. Welcome to HLP.

 

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ummm... im not so new...
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you guys are slow :D
and its pronounced pecenipicek
it means roasted chicken(actually its baked chicken but i prefer the roasted one)
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Religion doesn't cause anything. The center of stupidity is the inability to see in shades of gray. Now with that said, religion is often plagued with just that shortcoming, but taking away religion is A) impossible and B) completely irrelevant.
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a) completly possible in the long run (infact probably in the long run)
B) completely relevant -- religious worldviews are, by requirement, irrational - irrationalism is dangerous
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To be brutally honest, I think most of America knows, by now, just how big a mistake invading Iraq was, humanitarianaly, Politically and Financially.

The problem is that a lot of American's don't want to have to admit it, because they think that saying they made a mistake is somehow going to lessen them in some way, yes the world will giggle a bit, but none of those countries deserve to be throwing the first stone, least of all France or Russia ;)

It's changed from an issue of rights to an issue of pride for America, and the more stubborn and defensive it gets, the louder those who don't want to accept will shout.

 

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Yes, but it is arguably an invaluable portion of us. It is the source of art and emotion, which are integral to religion. Dyonisus, remember, was the god of wine, theatre, and irrationality.

I wouldn't trade my irrationality for anything. Besides, I think religion is the result of irrationality, not the cause.
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Being irrational is part of being human. Emotions are irrational. Art is irrational. All philosophy is irrational.

Religion is not in and of itself a bad thing. People use relgion as a pretext to do bad things, but there are plently of other pretexts that have nothing to do with relgion. Like or or not, spirituality is simply part of the human identity.

 

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Well, the funny thing is that people say we need to bring religion 'up to date' for the fact of the matter is religion IS changing to suit the times constantly. I seem to recall that Jesus spoke with and had great respect for healers, 1500 years later we were burning them at the stake.

That is because Religion is about honesty with ones self and accepting the possibility that there is something more than you, however, The Church is about control, misinformation and greed.