[TrashMan]

We skipped that 

No, I seriously have no clue...

ERm..Can we PLEASE hear fro mthe people working on the Iceni and Collie? So we can at least know where we stand with it...

If you are unable or unwilling to finish those ships, put your files up and someone else (like me) will finish them

[Hades]

The one with the Colossus bigass,ass is inactive.

[Flaser]

Was probably never committed as an individual post, and only superseded the v2 in the 1st post, and was succeeded by v4.

[TrashMan]

So the Collie model is dead? Anyone want to make a new one then? I'm kinda swamped with work ATM....

[TrashMan]

What? No takers? Damn you lazy buggers! If I hear no word about a HTL Collie in a week I'll make one!

*grumbe*

[Snail]

If you do make one, DO NOT ADD EXTRA MAPS, EXTRA TURRETS or other stuff PLEASE.

You can have some artistic license with it, but please don't do what you usually do with your HTL models.

[Snail]

Oh, and BTW, here are a few updates:

Ares done, with errors
Aten done, with errors
Faustus done, with map error
Hecate done
Mentu spelt wrong
Orion done
Ravana done, with some errors
Ursa done
Zeus done

That's just a few pointers. i can put them into the form if you want.

[TrashMan]

If you do make one, DO NOT ADD EXTRA MAPS, EXTRA TURRETS or other stuff PLEASE.

You can have some artistic license with it, but please don't do what you usually do with your HTL models.

Why would I add extra turrets? Collie is undergunned for it's size, but not undergunned compared to other ships in the FS universe (as opposed to Typhon and Orion)

However IF I make it I MAY have to add 1 or 2 extra maps...there's only so much you cna do with the basic ones collie is made of...

[Woolie Wool]

The Orion is a beam boat. It has so many big beams that it's not unreasonable that it has weak anti-fighter defenses.

[Snail]

The Orion is a beam boat. It has so many big beams that it's not unreasonable that it has weak anti-fighter defenses.

We like the Orion that way.

However IF I make it I MAY have to add 1 or 2 extra maps...there's only so much you cna do with the basic ones collie is made of...

An alternative is that you give the Colossus a UV map. That way you can have special details on the texture without having thousands of tiles.

[akenbosch]

the link to download dabrains manticore is messed up.it says i cant acces that section...

[TrashMan]

The Orion is a beam boat. It has so many big beams that it's not unreasonable that it has weak anti-fighter defenses.

20 terran turrets is just as weak as 6 terrans turrets and 4 AAAFs.

Having roughly the same number of turrets as other GTVA destroyers (and a more sane number for it's size) doesn't necessarily make it that much stronger...depends whats in those turrets

[Hades]

the link to download dabrains manticore is messed up.it says i cant acces that section...

PM him...

[akenbosch]

where is he, anyway?

[Woolie Wool]

The Orion is a beam boat. It has so many big beams that it's not unreasonable that it has weak anti-fighter defenses.

20 terran turrets is just as weak as 6 terrans turrets and 4 AAAFs.

Having roughly the same number of turrets as other GTVA destroyers (and a more sane number for it's size) doesn't necessarily make it that much stronger...depends whats in those turrets

The Orion has an insane amount of firepower from 3 BGreens and 3 TerSlash. It doesn't need more guns, unless it's a really comprehensive refit.

[Raptor]

Something that's bugged me about the Collossus is that the -in-game model actually has less weapons than the tech/campaign briefing says it has.

The ani states:
45 'laser' turrets
15 flak guns
12 missile batteries
12 beam cannons
for a total of 84

But in game it only has 63, with an extra heavy beam...

[jr2]

I think that the actual Collossus' specs should match the cbriefing ani specs if at all possible.  Oh, and the extra heavy beam was made when the C overcharged its beams, in FRED IIRC it just switched to BFGreen instead of BGreen.

[TrashMan]

The Orion has an insane amount of anti-capitalfirepower from 3 BGreens and 3 TerSlash. It doesn't need more guns, unless it's a really comprehensive refit.

fixed. It sucks vs. fighters BIG TIME. Would 1 less AAAF and 5 more terran turrets change anything?

I think that the actual Collossus' specs should match the cbriefing ani specs if at all possible.  Oh, and the extra heavy beam was made when the C overcharged its beams, in FRED IIRC it just switched to BFGreen instead of BGreen.

And face the wrath of the purists?

[karajorma]

I think that the actual Collossus' specs should match the cbriefing ani specs if at all possible.  Oh, and the extra heavy beam was made when the C overcharged its beams, in FRED IIRC it just switched to BFGreen instead of BGreen.

LRBGreen not BFGreen.

The BFGreen is never actually fired anywhere in the game.

[Raven2001]

Dunno if its been mentioned before, but I think it would be good if someone responsible for that list to make a search on other models still "in progress" from long ago, but from which we dont know if their creators are still working\intend to continue working on them.

The idea would be if they arent working on them, to give them up to the community so someone can finish them. Kinda like what Axem did.

The Rakshasa, Astaroth, Argo and Artemis come to mind