[Grey Wolf]

I still favor Wing over the other Gundam series, mainly because of Deathscythe....

[Genryu]

Heretic !!!!
That being said, I'm waiting for Fafner to be entirely subbed, and i'll wath the series at once. Given that I'm working, and I must sleep a little to be functionnal, a 26 episodes series is watched in 4 days max

[Grey Wolf]

Mind you, I've only seen a very limited number of the series. Specifically, 08th MS Team, which wasn't bad; SEED, which was good, though I didn't like the character animation style; G Gundam, which I didn't like much at all; and SD Gundam, which was just wrong.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Genryu
Heretic !!!!
That being said, I'm waiting for Fafner to be entirely subbed, and i'll wath the series at once. Given that I'm working, and I must sleep a little to be functionnal, a 26 episodes series is watched in 4 days max

Might be a good idea, since the series has some difficulties to really "start", if you know what I mean. But what I like is... mmh, how to say... yeah, how cruel it can be. There's no mercy, even for the main characters

[Flaser]

Whoever came up with Wing - especially the guy in charge of animation - should rot in hell.

I have never seen any other show do as much recycling and abberant reuse of moneyshots - once the battle started I could pretty much tell frame to frame what would happen.

If you want some qulity though: Wath the movie trilogy made from the original.

It was made roughly 20 years ago, so don't espect spectacular animation - what still shocks and sends me flying though is despite THAT the show still rocks and carries quite a punch.

If you like 8th MS you'll love 0083 - it's a minor "episode" (13 ep OVA) set between Zeta and the Original about the last Zeon remnants doing a suicide to try to make people see some of their truth of the war.
The show is haunting and fantastic, it has it all:
A protagonist who is for one not a top gun badass pilot or an I don wanna fight superman in deceptive package, but an everyday green rookie who actually builds into a steady soldier.
Badass psychos on both sides of the conflict and the everyday people caught between the crossfire, along with the noble veterans who push on only for each other and the memory of the dozen lost comrades; for a fight they knew was lost several years ago.

Plus monster mobile suits, nukes and badass political scheming.

[Liberator]

08th MS Team shows the decent into fascist military dictatorship between the originial series(where they are a relative good guy) and Zeta(where they are the all-powerful military dictatorship that had to be stopped).

[delta_7890]

Originally posted by Liberator
08th MS Team shows the decent into fascist military dictatorship between the originial series(where they are a relative good guy) and Zeta(where they are the all-powerful military dictatorship that had to be stopped).

Eh?  Are you sure you aren't talking about 0083?  08th MS Team was a kind of side-story to 0079 (the original Gundam series).  0083 however showed us a terrible event (the Delaz Conflict) that lead to the creation of the Titans, who gradually usurped more and more of the Earth Federation's political and military power, in the name of defending the Earth Sphere against Zeonic remnants and other "troublesome" spacenoid uprisings (read: the protesters at 30 Bunch in Zeta).

[Grey Wolf]

0083 sounds rather interesting. I may have to look into it at some point....

And about Wing, you have to admit it had some nice mecha designs, even if half the characters were idiots. In retrospect, I may like it just because it was the first actually decent anime I had ever seen....

[Liberator]

0083 showed the "historical" events that lead to the rise of the Titans, true, but there is less philosphical meandering between MS battles.

08th MS showed the philosophical events that led to the Titans, Shiro & Aina's "betrayal" of their respective armies to be with each other led showed the mindset of the command structure that essentially ran the EA.  On the other hand, it made the Zeon commanders begin to rethink themselves, since Zeon was always more of a family type organization(kind of like the Mafia) which led to them being the Underdog forces in Zeta.

[Gortef]

Originally posted by Liberator
Apologies then I haven't seen all of SEED yet.  Perhaps the seed represents a form of enhanced consciousness that allhumans can achieve in moments of extreme stress, but only certain enhanced humans can learn to control it.

That's pretymuch it, according to what I've heard/read several times.

[Liberator]

Episode 13 is available on torrent and there are over 4300 uploaders.

[Gortef]

saw it allready... actually I have watched the final part of that episode about 5 times straight ^^;

[Liberator]

It's that good?

Just go my torrent started, I hope it speeds up.

*edit*
That was neat!  It wasn't the Battle Royale that I was expecting but it was cool none the less.

[Gortef]

yep, good entrance

[Genryu]

Especially liked how a special assassination commando pissed themselves in front of a teenager. Granted, they didn't know it was a teenager at the 'wheel', but still

Edit : And yes, the battle was a lesson in butt-kicking. Though on a Gundam forum, I've people gripping about the Freedom being out-dated
They can't make mass producted weapons in 2 years able to tackle a state of the art Mobile Suit, especially with an ace piloting it...

[Liberator]

Freedom outdated?  Compared to what exactly?  It's the only nuclear powered suit in existence and it has the firepower of a battleship, manuverability that exceeds anything else in existence and belongs to the most powerful pilot in the universe.

[Gortef]

No wonder some people whine Freedom being a bit too owepowered

so what

[Liberator]

Kira's the one that's over powered, he probably could have taken those turkey's out with the basic Strike unit.

[BlackDove]

I just saw the first episode (downloaded em all but it's a hassle to go through since I've got about four different anime waiting as well).

It's....okay so far. Can't really judge it yet.

I saw all fifty(ish) (it was more than 50, right?) Wing's, and that was a fun-ish show, so I think I'll like this one.

Best Gundam though? No contest.



Zero pwned all.

[BlackDove]

Mweh, I'm at 09. The ED is awesome, and the OP isn't that bad either.

Story is more interesting than Wing, that's for sure, since they've coupled a kind of a Nadesico thing into it (which wasn't working for Nadesico if I may say so myself).

Anyway, yeah, good anime. Hope it beats Wing.

Although.....Zero is still #1 Gundam....ever.