[Swamp_Thing]

Just in. A chopper went down near the syrian jordanian border, 31 killed.

They are dropping like flies. Literally!

[Grug]

karma.

[vyper]

cameleon...

[beatspete]

red gold and green,
red gold and greeeeeeeeEEEEEEEeeeen...

is that the words?

Waste of a nice helicopter.

[vyper]

Isn't it sad how callous we are?

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by vyper
Isn't it sad how callous we are?

Uh, no, not really. They signed up for that. You mess with a wasp´s nest, you are bound to get stung.

[vyper]

Originally posted by beatspete
red gold and green,
red gold and greeeeeeeeEEEEEEEeeeen...

is that the words?

Waste of a nice helicopter.

No it's something like "he comes and goes, something goooooeees."

or.... something.

[Swamp_Thing]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6847225/

According to the initial investigation, the helicopter was not shot down; rather it crashed due to a mechanical failure or poor weather conditions. Iraq was hit by severe sandstorms that grounded all military aircraft two days ago.

I have a hard time believing whenever they say a chopper goes down in a war zone, for "mechanical failure". Do they think we are all stupid? Haven´t they heard of auto-rotation?
It´s almost impossible to crash a chopper, even when the tail rotor goes out. The spinning movement of the blades keeps the chopper from dropping like a stone. The only thing that would cause the chopper to drop out of the sky like that  is a bad pilot, enemy  fire, or a total failure in the rotor blades (like loosing a blade).

Chances are these guys were an incursion squad, heading for Syrian territory in recon. And no one in the White House would ever admit US forces entered syrian territory, as that would be an act of war.

I don´t feel the slightest sad for them. They shouldn´t have been there in the first place.So you won´t see me shed a tear for them, that´s for damn sure.

[Grug]

I feel sorry for the soldiers and the families though. Most were probably just doing what they were told to do...

[Deepblue]

Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6847225/

According to the initial investigation, the helicopter was not shot down; rather it crashed due to a mechanical failure or poor weather conditions. Iraq was hit by severe sandstorms that grounded all military aircraft two days ago.

I have a hard time believing whenever they say a chopper goes down in a war zone, for "mechanical failure". Do they think we are all stupid? Haven´t they heard of auto-rotation?
It´s almost impossible to crash a chopper, even when the tail rotor goes out. The spinning movement of the blades keeps the chopper from dropping like a stone. The only thing that would cause the chopper to drop out of the sky like that  is a bad pilot, enemy  fire, or a total failure in the rotor blades (like loosing a blade).

Chances are these guys were an incursion squad, heading for Syrian territory in recon. And no one in the White House would ever admit US forces entered syrian territory, as that would be an act of war.

I don´t feel the slightest sad for them. They shouldn´t have been there in the first place.So you won´t see me shed a tear for them, that´s for damn sure.

You are quite the conspiracy theorist. Learn some tact.

[vyper]

Tact? Why? He's just stating his opinion based on the facts and precident.

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by Deepblue


You are quite the conspiracy theorist. Learn some tact.

What conspiracy? All i did was state a well know fact amongs chopper pilots (i was in the Air Force, btw). Choppers don´t crash, they descend. How the hell did they manage to crash a chopper, in a desert, with 50km visibility on all directions? The sand storms were over for days.
The simple fact is, the White House doesn´t like to admit loss of troops to enemy fire. An "accident" is easier to explain to the public.

As for "tact", i don´t need any. I´ve never hid my opinion from nobody. As far as i´m concerned, the US Army is an invasion force, and i couldn´t care less wether 100 or 1000 die over there. They have it coming. And i don´t care about their families either. The fact that Bush stands in office today is a proof that most families agree with what´s going on over there. That makes them just as guilty in my book.
You want "tact"? Go ask the 100.000 iraqi deads if the US Army had any "tact" when they killed them in cold blood.

[Flipside]

Thing is, especially in sandy environments, Helicopters have a few weak spots. The rotors cause massive torque on the drive shaft, and fighting against strong winds increases that. Also, and more importantly, the Engines take a hell of a lot of Air, and the turbines generate the power that keep the gyro and other stuff balanced up and keeps the chopper level.

If sand manages to clog up the brushes in the generator or work it's way into the driveshaft, you end up with a situation that may cause a crash.

However, that said, someone needs to go kick some of the ground crew up their arses, they should be checking those things before every single flight.

[Sapphire]

You know, there seems to be only one reason for threads like this being allowed to stay on the boards.  Thats to keep undesireables from joining HLP..   You know, undesireables such as: Jews, Americans, blacks, hispanics, asians, Christians...etc.

Keep up the good work...

[Flipside]

ROFL That's the most pathetic attempt at a flame I've seen for ages.

[vyper]

It did provide some laughs mind, so she has that going for her...

[BlackDove]

Sounds like an RPG shot them down. All helo's that massacred the passangers in the Iraqi war (most of them anyway), simply burst into flames for no reason at all.

Seems like Iraqi's are getting some shots in. Though it really doesn't compare.

[Grug]

To make a serious claim like that Sapphire your probably partially racist yourself.

I do believe that Swamp_Thing may be a little over zealous though...

[übermetroid]

What type of bird was it?

And who was in it?

[ShadowWolf_IH]

maybe she says that because she HAS seen posts to that effect more than once in here.  you guys ever think that maybe those of us who have been here for a while are the reason that New people leave?