[aldo_14]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4289915.stm

Bit old I realise*, but you really have to be pissed off at these people - threatening to picket a charity, for ****s sake!  

This same loonie fundie group (and they are) are against the Universal Charter of Human Rights (because it isn't specifically in the name of God), shops opening on sundays, believe social security " rewards fecklessness and isolation", is against gun control, characterises inflation as stealing, states that speed cameras are (literally) evil..... and that's just the particularly nutty bits.  (I think they also call hinduism as being in league with Satan somewhere)

But there's nary been a word said against them in the news or press.  I mean, I'm not a particularly (if atall) religious person, but is there any pretence in the Bible that justifies threatening a charity in order to stop it receiving a donation made in good faith?  Let's not forget that the money is coming from people who paid at a charity gala, knowing that money was going to go the charity.

*In case you're wondering, it was prompted by an opinion piece in the paper today... I never realised just how fundamentalist-nutcase this group truly was

Oh, and don't think i'm having a go at Christianity or whatnot, but I feel the need to vent my spleen.  Plus I know these people aren' reprensentative of their religion anyways - at least i hope not.

[Fineus]

..I just can't find the words.

[Turnsky]

the world's full of twitchy, self righteous asshats.  some of these people don't realise that the money might even save somebody's life.

[vyper]

[q]states that speed cameras are (literally) evil.....[/q]

Now let's give them a chance to make their case!

[karajorma]

Originally posted by aldo_14
is against gun control

*Channels Bill Hicks* Yeah cause when Jesus comes back you know he's going to be carrying an Uzi. The Prince of peace is back. But this time he's pissed! "I didn't tell you f**kers what kind of a mood I'd be in when I came back now did I?"



On top of everything I'll bet they didn't just donate the 3,000 themselves either.

[aldo_14]

Read their site;http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/

It's scary, but not in the way they intend.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by karajorma


*Channels Bill Hicks* .

They're against that, too; consider it witchcraft.

[Rictor]

Eh. Its their right to refuse it. Thats more or less the entire basis of religion as I understand it, that spiritual matters are of greater concern than wordly issues, both good and bad. So by their logic, their immortal soul takes precedent over cancer. I may not agree, but at least they stick to their guns, for what its worth. And lets be honest, its not like $3000 will end cancer forever. In fact, it probably can't even pay for the treatment of a single patient.

Originally posted by aldo_14

This same loonie fundie group (and they are) are against the Universal Charter of Human Rights (because it isn't specifically in the name of God)

From their website:

"... and it insults Almighty God, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Christian faith.  It also (neat point for human rights aficionados) insults us Christians in our religious beliefs, contrary to Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights."



And actually, inflation is a round-about form of taxation.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Rictor
Eh. Its their right to refuse it. Thats more or less the entire basis of religion as I understand it, that spiritual matters are of greater concern than wordly issues, both good and bad. So by their logic, their immortal soul takes precedent over cancer. I may not agree, but at least they stick to their guns, for what its worth. And lets be honest, its not like $3000 will end cancer forever. In fact, it probably can't even pay for the treatment of a single patient.

They didn't refuse it.  They forced the charity to refuse it by threatening to protest outside their offices (effectively a picket line).

The charity, I should add, should be ashamed of their action in listening to them, too.

It read: "As a result of contact from Christian Voice, Maggie's has taken the decision not to accept the proceeds from a special performance of Jerry Springer - The Opera."

Stephen Green, from Christian Voice, said the charity had made a decision to "honour the Christian faith", describing it as a "beacon of excellence".

"They were in grave risk of alienating Christian donors, their staff and cancer patients," he told Radio 4's Today programme.

He admitted his group threatened to protest outside the cancer charities' offices had they accepted the donation.

[Rictor]

And the charity was swayed...
Like I said, I may not agree, but they were well within their rights to do it. Its the same (in principle) as when a group protests outside the Parliment cause they invited Bush over, or something of that sort.

edit: yeah, got a little mixed up there. My bad.,

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Rictor
By "they", I meant the charity.

But they weren't sticking to their guns, or refusing on the basis of their own beliefs - they were being pressured into it by another.  Cancer doesn't discriminate between religions, after all.

[Unknown Target]

*sigh*

Don't really care anymore. The stupidity is just too great.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Rictor
And the charity was swayed...

And they should be ashamed of that; but it's not like they chose to do so out of their own conscience, they did so under a threat.  That is a morally repugnant thing (for Christian Voice to do).

[Flipside]

Saw this on the News last night, it was funny watching this stammering bearded Hippy getting ripped to pieces by the Newscaster AND a politician

[Deepblue]

Jerry Springer the Opera!?


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[Clave]

Oh yeah...and hugely successful, go figure...