[Black Wolf]

You could probably put a big collar onto a Sobek or something - it'd work just as well.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Carl




if you look at the CB animation with the faustus' scanning the knossos with the green beam thingy, they are matching it's speed. alternatively, you could shoot a grapling hook at it as it passes by.



not if the cables are attached to the bottoms of the inner ring segments and to the sides of the outer ring segments.

If you tug it that way.... won't the Faustus be moving ahead of the Knossos?  And if so, does that not mean that the dragged-behind segments may be getting pulled in closer together as the 'cone' tightens?  And if so, wouldn't there be a collision or similar risk between rotating segments?



EDIT; Goober already said this, I think; you'd need rigid connectors, and you'd need to manufacture them (several hundred meters if not several km long).

[StratComm]

And I still think that the interface between the operational Knossos and the subspace vortex that it sustains would keep any simple physical method of moving it around from working while the device is active.

[FireCrack]

Anyone else find it odd that the peices move inwards when the knososs detonates?

[Kie99]

Game Mechanics...

[pyro-manic]

Implosion...?

[FireCrack]

Game mechanics doesnt make sense

The meson bombs were placed incorrectly for an implosion.

[aldo_14]

Residual centrifugal motion?

[Goober5000]

More like residual centripetal motion.

EDIT: That actually makes sense.  The pieces are no longer rotating, so they're sucked toward the center by whatever force kept them in a circle.

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Carl
if you look at the CB animation with the faustus' scanning the knossos with the green beam thingy, they are matching it's speed. alternatively, you could shoot a grapling hook at it as it passes by.

Incorrect. The Faustus is holding posistion and scanning the segments as they go by.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by karajorma


And the GTVA are meant to build a ship with two counter rotating sections like that in the day or so they had before the Sathanas arrived? Somehow I doubt that a faustus could provide enough thrust to move the knossos.

I got the impression that the Knossos was (known) to be open for some time, and the GTVA knew there was a Shivan threat. The mere fact that the meson bombs were around seems to indicate to me that the GTVA was planning on the possibility of shutting down the Knossos. I can't see them really being practical for deployment against the NTF in the form that they appeared in Freespace 2.

[FireCrack]

Originally posted by Goober5000
More like residual centripetal motion.

EDIT: That actually makes sense.  The pieces are no longer rotating, so they're sucked toward the center by whatever force kept them in a circle.

Seems plausible, thoughh they dont accelerate towards the center i'l drop that off to engine limitations.

Possibly :V: originaly intended forr all the peices to collapse inot a subspace wormhole as does the bastions dbris... mabye, mabye not.



WMC, it's specificaly stated that the meson bombs used to destroy the portal were rototypes. They were being tested for effectiveness.

[Gregster2k]

You Can't Move a Knossos Because...

1. The thing is probably so darn high massed/heavy that you'd need incredibly powerful engines to move it one iota.

2. Moving a subspace portal stabilization device away from the node it's generating might cause undesirable weirdness.

3. You will be smacked by its spinning blade thingies and die before you EVER manage to attach cables or poles to it.

The Only Way that One Might Move a Knossos:

Take standard reactor cores, wire them to jump drives, encase in high density metal alloy and clamp to each and every part of Knossos. Then engage all these Strap-On Jump Drives simultaneously and see what happens.

Hang back 50 kilometers ... just in case.

[FireCrack]

Or just blow it up

For once can we agree that, for once command was smart.

[Gregster2k]

Yeah, but that didn't work. The portal was stabilized already.

I wonder if reversing the rotation of the portal would close it...but...um...not like we can just "talk to the Knossos" and be like "can you spin the opposite direction please"

Ahh well, if only it were that easy.

[FireCrack]

It's alpha 1's fault, he didnt protect the trinity well enough!

[WMCoolmon]

No, it's that dumbass engineer's fault.

You:"Hey, could you turn on the weapons systems in this Shivan-infested nebula so we might live?"
Engineer: *Whines* "No, we need all power on engines!!"

What they were doing with all that power is anyone's guess, since the engines were completely disabled.

Besides, the Elysium pilot could've simply warped out after they docked to the Trinity.

[FireCrack]

Or just evac the crew.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
I got the impression that the Knossos was (known) to be open for some time, and the GTVA knew there was a Shivan threat. The mere fact that the meson bombs were around seems to indicate to me that the GTVA was planning on the possibility of shutting down the Knossos. I can't see them really being practical for deployment against the NTF in the form that they appeared in Freespace 2.

Not saying that I disagree with you but having a specially made ship turn up and move the Knossos would be a pretty f**king big clue that they knew about it.

The meson bomb could just as easily have been developed to shut Bosch into Sirius, Regulus and Polaris if they couldn't beat him though so I wouldn't say for certain it proves they knew about the Knossos.

[aldo_14]

The meson bomb's simply a bloody big...bomb.    Not something the GTVA would be averse to making even if they didn't have a planned use for it.