[Kamikaze]

Here's an interesting comparison of the Xbox 360 and PS3 I found on Slashdot.

Originally posted by Pao|o on Slashdot

I took the time out to compare and contrast between the Xbox 360 & PS3 and I came to to this conclusion.

Xbox 360 has a CPU FPS of 45 GFlops*
PS3 has a CPU FPS of 218 GFlops

Xbox 360 has a GPU FPS of around 955 GFlops**
PS3 has a GPU FPS of 1.8TFlops

Xbox 360 has a combined FPS of 1TFlops
PS3 has a combined FPS of 2.18TFlops

Xbox 360 has a DVD-ROM
PS3 has a BD-ROM

Xbox 360 is WiFi ready
PS3 is WiFi built-in

Xbox 360 has 3 x USB 2.0 ports
PS3 has 6 x USB 2.0 ports

Xbox 360 has support for 4 wireless controllers
PS3 has support for 7 wireless (Bluetooth) controllers

Xbox 360 uses Memory Units
PS3 uses MS Standard/Duo/Pro, SD standard/mini & Compact Flash Type I/II

Xbox 360 has support for select Xbox1 games
PS3 has support for PS1 & PS2 games

Xbox 360 has support for 1 720p & 1080i display
PS3 has support for 2 480p, 720p, 1080i & 1080p displays

Note:
* Derived from CPU Game Math Performance of 9 billion dot product operations per second
** Derived from subtracting published Overall System Floating-Point Performance of 1TFlops with derived from CPU Game Math Performance of 9 billion dot product operations per second

Source:


Wikipedia's PS3 Tech Specs
Official Xbox 360 Fact Sheet
Formula for Dot Product Operations Per Second to GFlops

As far as specs go it looks like the PS3 will blow the Xbox 360 out of the water.

I'm concerned about how much these things are going to cost considering they're much more powerful than a modern PC.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kamikaze
Here's an interesting comparison of the Xbox 360 and PS3 I found on Slashdot.



As far as specs go it looks like the PS3 will blow the Xbox 360 out of the water.

I'm concerned about how much these things are going to cost considering they're much more powerful than a modern PC.

According to sony, the Ps3 has twice the power (in teraflops) of the Xbox360; of course, given that both companies will be quoting their peak performance stats, it's hard to know how reliable that is.  From what I've read previously, the PS3 is the more powerful, though; by how much remains to be seen.

I wouldn't worry too much about the cost, though.  Firstly consoles are always loss leaders (licensing & games make the money), secondly there'll be a price war once all 3 are released.

I think the xbox360 is expected to be $300 upon release; I reckon that'll plummet, because that's a lot for a console (regardless of how powerfull it is).  Also bearing in mind Nintendos Revolution will probably aim to severely undercut both next gen consoles.

[EtherShock]

The console that comes out later tends to be more powerful, although there aren't enough instances of this yet to prove it, but it makes sense, doesn't it?

Originally posted by kode


well, he did a lot more. like inventing alternating current.

he went kind of mad later on in his life and was determined to develop a death ray to kick all kinds of ass.

Haha, awesome. All these great people seem to go wacko later in life. You mean he discovered alternating current. IIRC, AC is how electricity naturally is.

[Nuke]

nintendo seems to be continuing their trend of making game systems for children. i hope there next console does a little bit better, id like to see a former video game giant stomp out the competition. atari tried that and hasnt made another console sence, but nintendo could do it if they make a system they could market to more mature gamers who actully remember playing the first nintendo.it would increase the fan base and thus increase sales.

[kode]

Originally posted by EtherShock
Haha, awesome. All these great people seem to go wacko later in life. You mean he discovered alternating current. IIRC, AC is how electricity naturally is.

nah. he invented it. I mean, oxygen wasn't invented until the 19th century. up til then, everyone had just been breathing air.

is it really ac naturally? I've always thought static discharges and lightning and stuff was pretty much direct current?

[Taristin]

Tesla was a great man. Edison was a c[/u]unt for ruining his career and his memory.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Nuke
nintendo seems to be continuing their trend of making game systems for children. i hope there next console does a little bit better, id like to see a former video game giant stomp out the competition. atari tried that and hasnt made another console sence, but nintendo could do it if they make a system they could market to more mature gamers who actully remember playing the first nintendo.it would increase the fan base and thus increase sales.

What do you think they're trying to do?  Both MS and Sony are going head to head to target a thin demographic of 16-30 year old males; Nintendo are simply aiming at everyone else.... it's pretty damn clever, the way they're focusing on accessibility in both the Revolution and DS rather than who can have the shiniest speculars.

[Deepblue]

Ugh, I just saw the PS3 console from the front side... The side shots look nice, but the front is what you see...

I think this console war is NOT going to revolve around power, but rather around online capabilities and games.

@Rictor, word is that the Killzone shots are concept renders, but I'm not discounting them as screenshots.

[Grey Wolf]

I actually like the design, or at least what's visible in this thread. I even rather like the controller design.

[Ransom]

Deepblue, look at the Killzone 2 gameplay video on Gamespot.

I don't mind the design. The controller is interesting, but it looks like it might be kinda awkward to actually use.

[Cobra]

@Kamikaze: duuuuuuude. that's a lot of stuff for a console.

[Deepblue]

Yeah, apparently part of the stuff shown was a rendered trailer, but some was in-game. Where's the hud BTW?

For those who like the design of the PS3:

That's a face(front) only a mother could love. The side view looks okay though.

[neo_hermes]

when you look at it from the front it looks familiar..

[kode]

it looks kinda big. I mean, stack 3 on top of each other, and they're taller than a bald black man!

[EtherShock]

Originally posted by kode

is it really ac naturally? I've always thought static discharges and lightning and stuff was pretty much direct current?

Hmm, Wikipedia didn't answer this one. I just figured it was because it's what we use. Maybe they're both natural? Can anyone confirm this?

Originally posted by Raa

Tesla was a great man. Edison was a **** for ruining his career and his memory.

I never heard of this. What did Edison do to Tesla?

Originally posted by Nuke

What do you think they're trying to do? Both MS and Sony are going head to head to target a thin demographic of 16-30 year old males; Nintendo are simply aiming at everyone else.... it's pretty damn clever, the way they're focusing on accessibility in both the Revolution and DS rather than who can have the shiniest speculars.

I wouldn't call us thin. We are the generation that grew up on video games. We have the money to spend on games for the most part. Nintendo is playing the safe route. I can't blame them. However, they know that the Nintendo Generation will always come back for their first-party games. That is one thing that Sony and Microsoft lack. They've pretty much get the licenses covered though.

[FireCrack]

Natural electricity is static and only flows in very rapid discharges.

Edison hinted thesla down and slanderised him to the max "AC is bad! it will kill us all" when realy DC was what sucked donkey.

And thesla didnt attempt to build a death ray, it was a wireless power tranceiver....


...wireless power, just what all these new consoles need for their wireless controllers.

[EtherShock]

Ah, I did know Edison was all for DC power (which would've required a power station every five blocks) but I didn't know that, poor Nikola. I think I've seen an actual device that charges battery packs on that principle. I can't remember where though.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by EtherShock

I wouldn't call us thin. We are the generation that grew up on video games. We have the money to spend on games for the most part. Nintendo is playing the safe route. I can't blame them. However, they know that the Nintendo Generation will always come back for their first-party games. That is one thing that Sony and Microsoft lack. They've pretty much get the licenses covered though.

We are a thin wedge of society; wider than the very first consoles (thanks largely to the Ps opening up the adult market), but it's still only a small cross-section of society.  When you think of the amount in our age group, and how many will have a disposable income for spending on games regularly, it's a hell of a tight market.

For one thing, there's a whole other gender to be tapped; which AFAIK no-one has done, at least intentionally.  From what I've read, the Nintendo DS might not be as powerful or impressive as the PSP, but it's accessibility has opened up its potential market to people not normally regarded or targeted as gamers.

If they get it right, Nintendo can make a stupendous amount of money - simply by making games more accessible and less 'hardcore'; just imagine if every filmmaker in the world was making solely Jerry Bruckheimer style films, and then someone came out with Finding Nemo and When Harry Met Sally (etc).

 The assumption is still that gaming is a juvenile pasttime; if they manage to break that, then they've got a massive market and will help legitimise the perception of gaming as a form of mass entertainment the same as TV, music, cinema, etc.

Originally posted by neo_hermes
when you look at it from the front it looks familiar..

Reminds me somewhat of a SNES or NES....  it is ugly, though.  At the moment, it's my preferred choice anyways; specs are better than the xbox360 (which is only a factor because they're out at more or less the same time), and IMO the games lineup will be more interesting.  Plus I couldn't give a monkeys about online, especially online subscription based play.

[Anaz]

Halo has done a lot to legitimise gaming as mass media. Microsoft gets props for that

[Unknown Target]

It's scary how I see frat boys playing video games (Halo)...
I'm like...crap, where did the nerd domination go?