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Who suffered more from the Shivans ?

It was the Vasudans
28 (44.4%)
It was the Terrans
14 (22.2%)
Me
21 (33.3%)

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Voting closed: May 19, 2005, 01:18:04 pm

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Offline karajorma

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Originally posted by Goober5000
What nodemap are you looking at?  The official one links Deneb to both Vasuda and Vega.


*Presses delete key* Bloody so called semi-official node maps :)
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I was just checking back to see if Vasudans are still leading the match.
They do. But "Me" are coming up pretty fast actually. :D

It would be fair enough IMO to assume that Terrans first met Vasudans somewhere around Antares, and most systems  beyond Antares were controlled or at least known by Vasudans before the war. Seems logical that systems next to Beta Aquilae (Antares and Vega) were the first contested ones.
With Deneb and Vasuda heavily defended, the easiest way to go for Terrans (from Vega) was towards Capella, though Vasudans were probably there before. T supply lines in Vega must have been easily cut by V attacks from Deneb, so it was probably difficult to keep a steady foothold in Capella, and Terrans had no other choice than attacking Deneb.
This leads me to believe that at least some Vasudan population was surely there in both Vega and Capella when the Alliance was formed.
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My two sence for teh day. I know i speled it wrong on purpose.

Anyways, deneb. I cant beleive none of you said this sofar. I recall, GTA or GTVA command sendign 600,000 troops to take over Deneb from Bosch. Thus, thats a mega ground battle on deneb for you.

Vasuda? No, it was deneb.

And for the Vasudan Instalations, yeah, iv never noticed that before. But i just realized something. Remember in the Multi mission with the Shia (Sp?)? They let it sit right in the node like a instalation. I beleive now that Vasudans use Bigger Bolder Ticker ships as instalations.

Very smart if you ask me. Fortified, mobile, manned. Deployable anywhere. BUt then again, they must not have frighters like we do, or use them to lock on to 'instalatoins'.

Also, one ship i beleive to be a 'mobile instalation', in the Sirus Blockade, multiplayer mission.  When we have our Promethus cap, what jumps in? A big dark ship with blue lights. Forgot name but it sure as hell looks like a instalation. Who would design a ship like that, if its for combat fully? Big, slow, and bulky?
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What ARE you talking about :wtf:  The big dark ship with blue lights is almost certainly a Typhon, which is actually perhaps the most elegant of all FS1 ship designs.  

Anyway, Vasudans have no installations in retail FS/FS2 because the story is told from the Terran perspective, in predominantly Terran systems, supporting Terran ships and installations.  Consequently :v: never bothered making any, as they were never used.  Does that mean they don't exist?  Probably not.  If Vasudans turned to space early in their species development, it seems to me that making habitable off-world installations would be a natural progression.
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:D

both species suffered, and you. there.

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RAA!!! come on, i'm not allowed to use HTML for fun? :D

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Your right its a typhoon. Heh i was about to claim i knew what a typhoon was, but i mistook it for the hazelsprut.

Still, it looks more like a vasudan instalation (W\ engins) then a ship. Too bulky.

Anyone else understand what i tried to say?
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Moron. it's spelled TYPHON. Only one O. It's not an asian storm, it's an Egyptian mythological figure.

Jeez, I'm gonna bug an admin to make a turrent -like smilie for Typhon, too.
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Originally posted by Charismatic
typhoon.
hazelsprut.


typhoon = Typhon.
hazelsprut = Hatshepsut.
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When the hell did he call it a hazelsprut?! i should trout him for that alone! :hopping:
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Pretty simple in my mind.

Vasudans might've lost Vasuda, but they're more cerebral, depend on logistics, and overall I don't think it bugged them that much aside from the fact that it was a blow to morale.

On the other hand, Terrans lost Sol and Capella, and they're verging on the more emotional side, meaning it comes as a bigger blow to them.

Khonsu said "Damn Vasuda Prime is gone.....whatever.....Let's start building the Colossus, screw the fact that we should maybe accomodate the survivors of the Vasuda disaster -  just ship those suckers to the Terrans, they'll take care of em".

Though, none of it compares to the Ancients, and the species that came before them. That was total obliteration to the power of depressve x10.

 

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Moron. it's spelled TYPHON. Only one O. It's not an asian storm, it's an Egyptian mythological figure.


Greek, actually.
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[q]Typhon is the offspring of Gaia and Tartarus. His mate is Echidna and both were so fearful that when the gods saw them they changed into animals and fled in terror. Typhon's hundred, horrible heads touched the stars, venom dripped from his evil eyes, and lava and red-hot stones poured from his gaping mouths. Hissing like a hundred snakes and roaring like a hundred lions, he tore up whole mountains and threw them at the gods.

Zeus soon regained his courage and turned, and when the other gods saw him taking his stand, they came back to help him fight the monster. A terrible battle raged, and hardly a living creature was left on Earth. But Zeus was fated to win, and as Typhon tore up huge Mount Aetna to hurl at the gods, Zeus struck it with a hundred well-aimed thunderbolts and the mountain fell back, pinning Typhon underneath. There the monster lies to this very day, belching fire, lava and smoke through the top of the mountain.

Echidna, his hideous mate, escaped destruction. She cowered in a cave, protecting Typhon's offspring, and Zeus let them live as a challenge to future heroes. Echidna and Typhon's children are the Nemean Lion, Cerberus, Ladon, the Chimera, the Sphinx, and the Hydra. [/q]

 

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Cerberus? The three headed dog from hell? heh, i can understand that. born from the mates from hell. :D

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Is that supposed to be humour? :wtf:
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holy ****, how did the other 2 posts get there? :wtf:
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you were typing something in another window, which IE thought were keyboard commands to go back, and hit submit again.

[q]From what i know theres no reason at all to belive mesons could be harmfull.[/q]

There was a meson BOMB... Obviously some charecteristic of mesons allow them to become extremely volatile and release enormous amounts of energy into surrounding particles. Considering that they made a big deal over the mesons detected in Ross 128 (RefBible), you can assume that they are not that common naturally, which could imply that they are unstable. None of this makes them dangerous, but most radioactive elements exibit the same charecteristics, and are often deadly.
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If i remember my sub-atomic particals from physics, mesons occur... screw it i'll look it up:  

Main Entry: me·son
Pronunciation: 'mez-"än, 'mEz-, 'mEs-, 'mes-
Function: noun
: any of a group of unstable, strongly interacting nuclear particles that have a mass between that of an electron and a proton and that occur in more than one variety —me·son·ic

lamens: unstable+strong+interactive+nuclear+alot of them starting in a small space= BOOM

 

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From what i know theres no reason at all to belive mesons could be harmfull.


If mesons are the mediators of force interactions within the atom, it strinkes me that by manipulating them you could create a very big bang indeed. Chances are that's how the moeson bomb works - stick a great big hunk of dense matter  (Lead or Uranium or something) inside that glowey blue thing and have it eliminate the mediation effect of the Mesons (That's what big blue glowey things are for). That's gotta do something.
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Think of a fragmentation warhead where the schrapnel(sp) are subatomic charged particals moving at greater than the speed of light. Because the particals are so small there would most likely be some kind of chain reaction with whatever is caught in the effective range of the meson's themselves. IE anything in that region would not only be vaporized but its mass would add to the explosive force of the explosion.