[Trivial Psychic]

Howdy All:

In my time of playing FS2, I've occasionally found things that didn't appear to make sense.  I'm not sure exactly why they're there, so I was hoping that perhaps someone else knows.

1) Why does the Sathanas table entry have an awacs entry in it?  I didn't know that a Sath was also an AWACS.

2) In mission 9 of the FS2 where you have to escort the supplies for the Colossus through an asteroid belt, while flying Perseus fighters, I've recently noticed a pair of Elysium class transports in the area.  In all my time playing this game, I never noticed them before.  They usually get destroyed by asteroids, but why are they there.  Is there a bonus objective for saving them?

If you too have questions along these lines, ask them here.

[Taristin]

1) I assume for better targetting with long range beams.

2) I've never noticed that.

[Kosh]

Here's mine:

1.) How did the SD Ravana knock off so many GTVA capitalships while taking so little damage? The Delecroix by itself should have been able to do a fair amount of damage to it.


2.) In "Their finest hour", why do none of the GTVA capital ships deployed (except for the Colossus) not fire their beams against the enemy capital ships? Why do they keep going back and forth IN FRONT of the node, right in the path of the incoming shivan capships? Any decent commander would know that is stupid.

[Cobra]

1) I have no idea.

2) Probably for bringing in the supplies from the freighters to the Colossus.

[Trivial Psychic]

Originally posted by Kosh
1.) How did the SD Ravana knock off so many GTVA capitalships while taking so little damage? The Delecroix by itself should have been able to do a fair amount of damage to it.

Ravana:
LReds X 2, SReds X 2
100000 hp

Orion (assuming Delecroix is that class):
BGreens X 3, TerSlashs X 3
100000 hp

LRed:
firewait 10
dammage 600
duration 7

SRed:
firewait 25
dammage 200
duration 3.8

BGreen:
firewait 30
dammage 1200
duration 4

TerSlash:
firewait 10
dammage 350
duration 2

Orion can only bring a maximum of 2 of each of its beam cannon types to bear on a single target, so that's about 4 beams, the same as the Ravana.  Big drawback for an Orion, is the BGreen, which while poweful, is severely hampered by its 30 second firewait, and 4 second duration.  Compare that to the LRed, which may inflict only half the dammage per seconcd, but it both fires 3 times as often and for almost twice as long per shot.  Sure, the TerSlash matches the LRed for firewait, but it only lasts 2 seconds and does little more than half its dammage per second.  Advantage, LRed... advantage Ravana.

[Cobra]

1) why did command have to blow up the knossos?

2) How can a destroyed subspace portal stabilize a subspace node?

[phreak]

Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
1) Why does the Sathanas table entry have an awacs entry in it?  I didn't know that a Sath was also an AWACS.
The weapons subsystem has an AWACS entry so the Shivans can shoot at you whenever you scan the weapons on the Sath

[Taristin]

scanning the subsystem activates teh awacs tag?

[WeatherOp]

In the Great Hunt, why is the Asuras a Cain, when it is suposed to be a Lilith.

[phreak]

Originally posted by Raa
scanning the subsystem activates teh awacs tag?

or going near it allows shivans to shoot you more easily.

[Kosh]

Orion can only bring a maximum of 2 of each of its beam cannon types to bear on a single target, so that's about 4 beams, the same as the Ravana. Big drawback for an Orion, is the BGreen, which while poweful, is severely hampered by its 30 second firewait, and 4 second duration. Compare that to the LRed, which may inflict only half the dammage per seconcd, but it both fires 3 times as often and for almost twice as long per shot. Sure, the TerSlash matches the LRed for firewait, but it only lasts 2 seconds and does little more than half its dammage per second. Advantage, LRed... advantage Ravana.

Yes, I am not questioning that the Ravana would win. But the Delecroix and all the other things command sent against it should have done more than 8% or so of damage, IIRC.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Cobra
2) How can a destroyed subspace portal stabilize a subspace node?

it's not like a rubber band, where it'll snap back into position. once it's stabilized, then it's stabilized permanenty.

[Charismatic]

Yeah, all the blockades and **** they had agienst enemy roaming caft, do nothing. I donno why. When we come inmission, enemy caps are 100%, right after they just ran and plundered 40 billion blockades and GTVA Caps.

Then alpha 1 comes in and takes it out.

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Trivial Psychic

2) In mission 9 of the FS2 where you have to escort the supplies for the Colossus through an asteroid belt, while flying Perseus fighters, I've recently noticed a pair of Elysium class transports in the area.  In all my time playing this game, I never noticed them before.  They usually get destroyed by asteroids, but why are they there.  Is there a bonus objective for saving them?

It appears (based on the fact they seem to have been issued dock commands) they're supposed to be hooked up to ships of the convoy. This makes some sense (the Elysiums would ferry material from the convoy to the Colossus: the Colossus has no dockpoints AFAIK, and its fighterbay can't handle Tritons or gas miners), but the dock order seems to have misfired. The Elysiums don't ever move.

Come to think of it, this would seem to be the opposite problem of how the Colossus will charge at the node in "Their Finest Hour", no matter what Goober tries.

[Cobra]

um... i said that already. just not in so many words.

2) Probably for bringing in the supplies from the freighters to the Colossus.

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
1) Why does the Sathanas table entry have an awacs entry in it?  I didn't know that a Sath was also an AWACS.

Unless there's an AWACS present, the AI cannot target stealth fighters in a nebula environment.  As for why it's on the communications subsystem (not weapons), that subsystem is centered on the "head" of the model and provides the best forward coverage.

2) In mission 9 of the FS2 where you have to escort the supplies for the Colossus through an asteroid belt, while flying Perseus fighters, I've recently noticed a pair of Elysium class transports in the area.  In all my time playing this game, I never noticed them before.  They usually get destroyed by asteroids, but why are they there?

I think they're supposed to arrive at the same time as the Colossus, but forgot to change the arrival cue.  They haul the cargo over to the Colossus.

[Cobra]

Originally posted by Goober5000
I think they're supposed to arrive at the same time as the Colossus, but forgot to change the arrival cue.  They haul the cargo over to the Colossus.

maybe that could be fixed in the SCP version of FS2 campaign?

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Cobra
2) How can a destroyed subspace portal stabilize a subspace node?

My take on it was that either A) the node was never destabilized, and the sensor readings were wrong (for whatever reason) or B) the portal stabilized because the Sathanas was already in transit; either the presence of a ship kept it stble, or the Sathanas was able to emit a subspace stabilization field of unknown strength.

[Kie99]

Why do all GTVA Caps attack Shivan warships head on?

In the Great Hunt, why is the Asuras a Cain, when it is suposed to be a Lilith

Because a lilith can take out a Deimos, especially one that's already been bombed.

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Cobra

2) How can a destroyed subspace portal stabilize a subspace node?

You've assumed a biconditional, but it is not necessarily so. Naturally stable subspace nodes exist, and it is not unreasonable to assume that, once stablized, even if the stablizing influence is removed, that node will remain stable of its own accord for some time.