[Roanoke]

Originally posted by Krackers87
However i liked the music in burnout 3, so you can kiss my white amero-ass.

Me too.
Never knew what all the fuss around HL was about anyway.

[Sandwich]

Face it - FarCry rulz!!!!1122

[IPAndrews]

In HL3 Freeman will wake up and the G Man will tell him to challenge everything.

[Fineus]

I enjoyed Burnout 3 to be honest, and tracks like Orpheus by Ash made the music quite enjoyable. That said - with music there are always going to be people who're disappointed.

I will say though, that EAs insistance on plastering their games with sign boards for their other games is quite irritating. I want to play a game with atmosphere, not a walking advertisment.

Kinda curious though, this whole EA / HL / Publisher thing. EA does realise that Valves Steam system totally goes around the publisher, right? I don't see Valve budging on that, but I don't see EA being happy to role over and let one of the biggest game names of all time use them as a publisher then avoid the publishing costs with Steam.

[kasperl]

I agree with Maeg on the DRM part, I only played HL2 because I won it in a lottery on these boards (thanks Xelion). the game itsself was pretty good, even though character interaction should've been more pronounced.

DRM like Steam should be illegal, because it really harms your rights as a buyer.

[DeepSpace9er]

Rights as a buyer? Did you read the EULA? You signed your life and everything you own away to Valve with the simple click of I Accept. They own the rights to your soul now.. thats how they get away with DRM.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by DeepSpace9er
Rights as a buyer? Did you read the EULA? You signed your life and everything you own away to Valve with the simple click of I Accept. They own the rights to your soul now.. thats how they get away with DRM.

[color=66ff00]EULA's have never stood up in court IIRC, in fact I seem to remember someone in the higher echelons of the law system claiming that they could be illegal.
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[aldo_14]

Point of EULAs, I reckon, is that your bog-standard gamesplayer can't afford to hire a fancy pants lawyer to challenge them in court (nor even a simple hyperchicken from a backwood asteroid)

[IPAndrews]

Originally posted by aldo_14
challenge them in court

EA would encourage you to do that.

[Grug]

Originally posted by IPAndrews


EA would encourage you to do that.

*Don's Hippy clothes*

Down the corporations!

Death to EA!




IMO HL2 was very medicore. Just another run of the mill fps with some extra features. There is no real story, just weird crap happening around you.

I play / ed Halo2 much more times than HL2... >.>

[vyper]

HL2 was brilliant, although I may differ with the writers from a creative point of view.

[Fineus]

It was a brilliant execution of tired old innovations. It looked pretty and it had a nice polish on it, but what would you say it really did...?

Moving vehicles... we've been there. Physics... we've been there. Graphically it stood strong, but graphics alone do not a game make.

[kode]

Originally posted by redmenace
Not all that EA puts out is ****, nor loaded with commercial ****. ie battlefield 2

which is made by a swedish company whos stockholder told ea to go to hell when they wanted to buy the company from them.

oh, and I actually like burnout 3 quite a lot.

[karajorma]

The sad thing is if everyone had simply said no to HL2 when it came out it would have been released 2-3 months later max without steam.

Instead the weaker minded individuals went out and bought it because they didn't realise that HL had to sell or Valve would be going down the tubes with it.

[aldo_14]

I never realised how bad Steam was, and I deeply regret not returning the game within the statutory grace period.  Primarily, I expected to be able to uninstall Steam after registering the game.

Stupid me.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]I'd have to dispute the reasoning a bit kara, Valve never made the extent of HL2's crippling apparent, the court case brought up against them in europe is indicitive of this. Basically they never made it clear on the box or the requirements that an internet connection was necessary in order to play the game.

They fudged the facts to make people buy.
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[karajorma]

I'm not saying that everyone was weak minded but there were a hell of a lot of people who had heard that Steam was bad and STILL went out and bought the game without checking how bad.

After the first few days, sales of Half Life should have ground to a halt once everyone realised how bad Steam was. Yet I still see people defending it. If everyone had simply taken their copies back to the shop this debate would be over.

In fact it probably would have made worldwide news and discouraged anyone else from trying it.

[Nico]

I assume I'll never play HL2, listening to you all. Bah, who care, if I want to buy a FPS some day, it'll be doom3, not HL2.

Did they ever release a demo or something, anyway?

[aldo_14]

Yes (for both Doom 3 and HL2).

The HL2 demo required Steam; AFAIK it was only released at the request of ATI, presumably as their licensing deal was ****ed over by the mammoth delay to the game.

[Nico]

Originally posted by aldo_14
The HL2 demo required Steam

They can kiss my ass
So, I find it a good news Valve teams with EA, no? They may suck each other's blood out.