[Stealth]

but 9/11 was an isolated incident.  around the disaster site, life went on.  there were no refineries destroyed, no oil rigs ripped from their locations and washed ashore on the coast of louisiana... that's not the case with New orleans

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by karajorma


Hell the asian Tsumani affected an enormously bigger area, caused more devestation and was dealt with far better by every country involved. Look at India for instance. They actually refused international aid and helped out their neighbours.

As for coverage in the rest of the world this is going to become more famous as time passes.



You're having a f**king laugh if you think that the Asian Tsunami was a lesser disaster than this one in ANY terms except the reactions of people involved. Tsunami's are completely different animals from storm surges and as StratComm put it that isn't even the issue affecting New Orleans.

HENSE THE WORD MAYBE. If we want to getinto specifics, we;d be on hlp floadin the threads all day. to be honest with you this issue is havin an effect on people because it hit close to home, so yes expect many here to react as if it was worse than the asian tsunami. and when i mentioned hieght of the waves and storm surges, i was mearly going on what the news said because theyre were people from the previous tsunami saying that it was worse based on facts and data they collected about the hurricane when it hit the main cities down there. i wish i could quote who it was specifically, or show a vid but i cant, so dont lash at me for "incorrect" data.

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by Bobboau
the tsunami coment that has everyone bent out of shape, yeah, obviusly 250,000 people dead is worse than 10,000 people dead, I think the comment was more along the lines of, were it hit it was worse than were the tsunami hit, and thought this was also wrong, you do have to consiter the fact that the tsunami hit, did it's damage, and was over with in a few minutes, and people could come in with stuff right away, in NO, the water is still riseing, in the areas affected it's more desperate than the areas affected by the tsunami, even though the area is miniscule incomparison to that of the tsunami.

exactly what i was trying to say. in the short term the tsunami flooding receeded quickly. within a couple of hours to a few days. i had co workers going out there because they wanted to lend help (was with red cross). this i can verify as truth, it was easier to get assets into the tsunami areas cause the water reeceded faster. in N.O. u have a city thats mostly under sealevel my default. the water has no where to go once its in the city, its not gonna flood back into the river in which it came, the river is ABOVE the city! the long term effects of the flooding is the problem and is whats going to make this a defining diffrence in how many people will die out there in general, to be honest with you the city is practically lost. People are dying in the Superdome, there is no supplies, people are dying in the streets in and around the super dome, on roof's, in attics, on highways. its just horrible all togeather. both sides of the story. at any rate this is still a horrid situation and to  a degree the only thing that appals me more is the responce of our leaders to this situation.

[deep_eyes]

Please go to the http://www.cnn.com/ CNN WEBPAGE and scrowl a bit down till u see this:

"New Orleans mayor lashes out"

the watch button opens a player that has the major of NO expressing his anger and lack of responce. had the cnn newsman cryin!

[Stealth]

I agree 100% with what he said.

[DaBrain]

Same here. He really cares.
I heard the whole interview and I fell pretty bad now.

It's to damn wrong to ignore these people. I can stand it!

[BlackDove]

I was looking at the news and it looks to me like the people who are suffering are mostly black.

I don't really see rich white people giving a damn.

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by BlackDove
I was looking at the news and it looks to me like the people who are suffering are mostly black.

I don't really see rich white people giving a damn.

Quite possibly because they all left when they were told to.

[Stealth]

or more importantly, they left because they were able to... the poorer (mostly black) people made their way to relief centers, such as superdome, etc.  those are the ones that are in trouble, not the people that are still walking the streets

[BlackDove]

I'm quite sure White Supremacists are havinga  field day with all the footage of black people looting stores.

[StratComm]

You know, if that's the only angle you can look at it from then you really need to turn off your TV and get out more.  It's been said repeatedly (as soon as the race card comes up one way or another) that every dispicable human trait that has reared its head in New Orleans in the last few days has done so in members of every race and creed.  If any white supremacist is stupid enough to push their agenda through this, well, the deserve the condemnation that they will inevatibly get.  My personal opinion is that anyone who tries to draw such parallels should be sent directly to an affected area and either be forced to live under those conditions or to do something to help.  I'm not sure which of those would do more good though.

[Stealth]

Necessities only.

However, that link Sandwich posted of that guy's blog... he said that there are WHITES, BLACKS, and HISPANICS (he also said for some reason he hasn't seen a single asian) looting.

[StratComm]

Retards.  What the **** do they intend to do with all of that crap?  I know this represents the poor trying to get things that they'd never normally get (and in reality, the shop would probably have had to pitch most of it anyway) but honestly.  Take what you can actually wear, not 10 ****ing copies of the exact same thing.  Please note, this is a comment on basic behavior of surviving poor/desperate survivors in general, and is completely irrespective of race.  The fact that this picture portrays only people of African descent only shows that of the remaining population most are black, not that it's some inherent behavior or some crap like that.

Out of curiosity, how many asians actually live in New Orleans?

[BlackDove]

Incidentally, I only see black people in the media.

Much like in that photo.

[Stealth]

because black people in New Orleans society are the poor (for the most part), and couldn't leave cause they had no transportation.  that, or they're in gangs, and didn't leave intentionally.

typical in that picture though.  like a circus if you ask me.  look at the guy on the right "holding his pants up".  and the guy in the blue shirt... *shakes head* makes me wonder sometimes

[BlackDove]

It's surprising to me, because I thought this was rectified at the turn of the century.

I mean, over here across the ocean, we don't have that kind of a racial financial gap _anywhere_. Even in the country where we were all poor, we were _all_ poor.

It's just suprising, that's all.

[vyper]

Hmm, poor black people get hit by hurricane. Republican govt. belly flops on the relief efforts.

Didn't see that one coming.

[TrashMan]

Why do you bild such crappy homes in the US anyway?

Every time a stronger strom comes troguh thousands of houses are completely destroyed..And when you look in the new they're all out of some crappy materials (wood, cardboard).

Sure they are cheap, but they break easily.

Where I live we occasionally (several times each year) have high winds that can uproot trees and fling cars and practicyl no one ever dies and the damage is allway minimal. Why?

We have stone houses built like bunkers

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by vyper
Hmm, poor black people get hit by hurricane. Republican govt. belly flops on the relief efforts.

Didn't see that one coming.

i bet you 5 dollars that they loose the next election based on the disaster alone.

[DaBrain]

I think they would loose even without this disaster.