[CP5670]

I played on a 56k for over two years. FS2 wasn't quite as bad as most other games on a 56k (200-300ms pings were fairly playable for me), once you got used to the primary weapon leading. The hosts always wanted everyone to use low updates anyway.

[ZmaN]

ok im gunna make this clear......  I really didnt mean SUE, its just came to my mind when i was replying.  I meant that something LEGALLY (NOT just suing could be done to the company that owns PXO).  As for being a newbie, YOU ALL WERE ONCE NEWBIES, so stop throwin me off as a noob and not knowing what im talkin about.  sueing because of online play going down is NOT in any way shape or form like suing your parenhts for no desert, youre acting like a retard there.  As for licensing, I would buy the freakin license if i had the money.   maybe in a cou0ple years (im starting a computer business, not the point but...)  As for that stupid nFreespace frenzy thingy, thats a TOURNAMENT, DUH theres gunna be alotta ppl there.  As for D3 PXO, i never played D3 on PXO, I have played it for a year now, but only on Vortex, but the D3 Community was ONCE very big.  Im a member of the planet descent forums, and of people come back from who knows when, they juss leave a post, and yea there there still, the D3 community is quite small (smaller than most freespace communities), but it was once big, quite big.  I dont think D3 had a side with PXO, they're the same company, just different games, so why would the company have sides?  answer that for me...  THE REASON FOR DOING SOMETHING LEGALLY AGAINST WHOEVER OWNS PXO (yes thats a subtitle, not a yelling sentence), when a consumer breaks a license aggreement, we can go to jail, juss for modding, making copies, w.e. (they come up with so many reasons to get u put away!)  Since they broke the aggreement of keeping PXO up, thehn why SHOULDNT they have any legal action against them?  they're no different, theyre still made of human beings like us, what makes them exempt from breakin EULA'S?  ANSWER THAT....

Finally last, but not least, DONT tell me to shut up juss because i have an opinion!!!  Thats wht i think and thats wht ill stand by.  Juss because i dont have 1000 posts or w.e. you guys qualify as NOT BEING A NEWBIE, doesnt mean u can tell me what to do with my opinion, so shut up losers!

P.S. Oh yeah, you know, i belive a newbie was telling ME to shut up, haaaa thats really funnie!!!  uhh his name was.... d3r3k!!!  youre the biggest loser that ever walked this forum!

SOOO, theres my story!!!

[Singh]

Originally posted by Stealth
i swear, to this day i believe that if FS2 came out NOW, it would've been a lot more popular.  make that FS1 even.  part of the reason so many people stopped playing, was that 95+% of the people at the time had dial-up (including myself), and you couldn't find host a game with more than one other person in it, and even then you'd lag.  the few and far between that had cable always had to host, and then put their updates on 'High', and all the people that joined had to put their update son 'low'... it was a joke.  i would've loved to play some 4 or 6 player games nowadays, when everyone's got broadband

Well, the internet's pretty big these days, and a lot of people are looking for free games and the like to download. I bet if we actually went through the effort to make a package that could be downloaded and used, which included the SCP, and then spammed it to the popular gaming mags....well, it would get some attention at the least.

Hell, we actually dont need to spam much either. All we'd need to do was to stealthily enter one of their forums, post a sweet screenshot, and then let them speculate where it's from.

Zman: you can state your opinion if you want, thats no problem. The problem is the way you state it, which is offensive and looks more like an attack than a statement.

[castor]

Originally posted by ZmaN
Since they broke the aggreement of keeping PXO up, thehn why SHOULDNT they have any legal action against them?

Because they already did for us more than anyone could ask.
Think about it, many of us have been here for years and years. Don't you think we then have some respect for that what got us here in the first place?

And you want to take legal action? Naah..

Cheers!

[achtung]

Originally posted by Singh


Well, the internet's pretty big these days, and a lot of people are looking for free games and the like to download. I bet if we actually went through the effort to make a package that could be downloaded and used, which included the SCP, and then spammed it to the popular gaming mags....well, it would get some attention at the least.

Hell, we actually dont need to spam much either. All we'd need to do was to stealthily enter one of their forums, post a sweet screenshot, and then let them speculate where it's from.
 

Thats a good idea:nod:

[ZmaN]

Originally posted by Swantz


Thats a good idea:nod:

I'll say!

[Mongoose]

Considering the fact that the sharing of full retail versions of FS2 is of questionable legality, even with the EULA statement, couldn't advertising it to the entire gaming community possibly bring about legal action that the community definitely doesn't need?

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by ZmaN
sueing because of online play going down is NOT in any way shape or form like suing your parenhts for no desert, youre acting like a retard there.

First of all, it's spelled parents, no h, typo-boy. Second, I am not a retard and would prefer not to be called one. Lastly, think of it this way:

Your parents feed, clothe, and provide shelter for you, free of charge.
Volition makes a game, sells it to you, but then later gives it to you for free. Not only that, they provide continuous community support until WE made them shut it down because it got out of hand (and THQ bought them later, ending it all). They also provided a great game, now free of charge, extensive modding capabilities, free of charge, etc.


Now think of it this way. Your parents give you all that crap, but one night they decide they can't give you desert anymore because one of them lost their job and they can't afford it. You get angry and sue them.

Volition gives us all this crap, but one night the server breaks and they don't have the time or money to fix it. You get angry and sue them.


See my point?

[StratComm]

Yes.  Which is why we don't do it, as community practice.  Borderline-legitimate sites (HotU being a prime example) are fine, but big legitimate stuff with a wide audience is another matter entirely.  I'm actually somewhat suprised that TBP got put on a cover CD.

[WMCoolmon]

ZMaN: it's called looking a gift horse in the mouth.

Actually, that's putting it lightly.

But if you were to put it before Interplay, they probably couldn't do anything. THQ wouldn't do anything, because Interplay did PXO.

Plus their thinking would probably be along the lines of "you have the source, do it yourself if you really want it".

This would probably be a good point to mention that there is some talk of reworking network code, so good, reliable testers will probably be a wanted commodity sometime soon.

[ZmaN]

Originally posted by Unknown Target


First of all, it's spelled parents, no h, typo-boy. Second, I am not a retard and would prefer not to be called one. Lastly, think of it this way:

Your parents feed, clothe, and provide shelter for you, free of charge.
Volition makes a game, sells it to you, but then later gives it to you for free. Not only that, they provide continuous community support until WE made them shut it down because it got out of hand (and THQ bought them later, ending it all). They also provided a great game, now free of charge, extensive modding capabilities, free of charge, etc.


Now think of it this way. Your parents give you all that crap, but one night they decide they can't give you desert anymore because one of them lost their job and they can't afford it. You get angry and sue them.

Volition gives us all this crap, but one night the server breaks and they don't have the time or money to fix it. You get angry and sue them.


See my point?

Hey! dont make funna my typos.....  I was typing on a laptop keyboard in my dads 18 wheeler, so gimme a break!  and yea i see your point.....  it all makes sense now