Originally posted by Raa
Second off, let's do a little role reversal, shall we? Say that you are still you, but this society favours homosexuality. Would you deny a major peice of who you are, a largely defining chunk of it, just to fit into society? Tell me that, if the situation were in reverse, you would 'control your impulses' and stick with what it is society thinks is best for you.
The problem with that example of such a role reversal is that the species would die off within a generation (which is the main reason many people view being homosexual as unnatural). Reproduction is as ingrained a survival instinct as avoidance of pain, except it's not on a personal level, but on a species-wide level.
And let's not even bring into this silly ideas such as organized reproduction. Any significant decrease in the rate of a species' reproduction will have detrimental effects on the species as a whole. Look at China, for example. They are limited by law (IIRC) to a maximum of one child per family. Think about that. If that law is completely adhered to, even to the maximum (i.e. every single set of parents does have that one child; no one goes childless), the next generation will have no aunts and uncles, no nieces or nephews... and of far greater import than that, the population will be reduced by fully 50% for every generation (not taking into account the overlapping generations thing that happens when parents don't die the moment their child is born; that muddles the waters, but the end result is the same).
Anyway, I apologize for getting onto such a tangent, but that's simply how I see it; for me, the "what if things were the other way around" is species-level suicide.
Originally posted by Raa
Honestly? I think he's full of ****. He's got fear of God, and he's writing this as a propaganda page for others that he thinks he can 'scare straight.' If the church wasn't so hypocritical, and truly accepted everyone as they are as 'God's children' there wouldn't have been a problem. Why is it hard to assume that God made some people homosexual? (If you do in fact believe in God...) And don't point me to the bible, please. Man wrote that book, it was editted by other men in a comitee. Watch Penn & Teller.
Lack of love from one's father will not make a man turn to other men. Nor will love from your father prevent it. He's trying to rationalize his past in a way that lets him believe that God had a master plan for him. Some people need that in their lives.
I have a loving family, a little too nosey, but loving all the same. My failures are my own, and not the fault of my parents, and my sexual orientation is not me being devient, nor me trying to make up for lost affection from my father. It is just part of who I am. Plain and simple.
A couple of points. First and foremost, I do appreciate your reading that... as I was going over it to see if it had those parts relevant to the discussion at hand (I saw Dennis when he came to Israel to visit a friend of his who lives here and to have a concert, therefore I heard his testimony myself and didn't read it somewhere), I kinda cringed in anticipation of the reaction from HLPeople reading this, which is from such an overt Christian POV.
Secondly, I do refer to the Bible, because without the Bible, there's no church, no reason to believe in Jesus over Mohammed over Buddha. The Bible is (should be?
) the core of every Christian; asking for an explanation of a Christian's beliefs without regarding the Bible isn't logical.
Anyway, the Bible clearly states what we all know it states about homosexuality; the humanistic demand on the church to compromise their beliefs in the name of "peace" and "love" is wildly accepted precisely
because the church has
already compromised its beliefs: too many Christians
hate homosexuals "in the name of God". This is not only
un-Biblical (no basis in the Bible), but it is
anti-Biblical (directly opposed to the Bible). Did Jesus not commune with the sinners when He came down? Did He not love them so much that He gave His life for their salvation? Far too prevelant is the false belief that the Bible teaches that God hates the sinner. What the Bible truly teaches is that God loves everyone; what He
does hate is the sin itself, not the sinner. If your son or daughter lies to you, if they rebel against you, do you hate them for it? No, of course not. You may hate that they lied, or rebelled, but you don't hate
them.
THIS is the message of tolerance the church should be preaching. Instead, they go two different directions, neither of which are Biblical. Some hate the sinner and the sin, others accept both sinner and sin.
No wonder why the world thinks we're a bunch of nutcakes.
Why the British spelling of "color"?
