[Tiara]

Originally posted by kasperl

And the fact only Cocu missed a penalty this tournament is pretty amazing, compared to Holland-Italy 4 years ago.

The curse is broken

This ofcourse to the credit of the youngsters as well

GO ROBBEN!

[Ghostavo]

Originally posted by karajorma
The only reason we held out so long against Portugal was that ever Portuguese midfielder or striker seemed determined to win man of the match and kept taking shots from 25-30 yards out

I thought they kept doing that because they were afraid of a counter-attack, which England is particularly excelent in doing as was demonstrated in the game.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Ghostavo
I thought they kept doing that because they were afraid of a counter-attack, which England is particularly excelent in doing as was demonstrated in the game.

That's a possible explaination for some of them but quite often they had men in the box and ignored them to take a shot which would have made a much better rugby conversion.

Basically there was nothing in that match that didn't disappoint me.

England played badly. Portugal seemed good but that was only cause England was so bad. They gave away possession sloppily too. They certainly didn't play like a team which before Euro started was supposed to be the best one in the competition. Even the refereeing disappointed me. Not just the disallowed goal but I saw some clear fouls commited by England that the ref completely failed to spot.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by karajorma


That's a possible explaination for some of them but quite often they had men in the box and ignored them to take a shot which would have made a much better rugby conversion.

Basically there was nothing in that match that didn't disappoint me.

England played badly. Portugal seemed good but that was only cause England was so bad. They gave away possession sloppily too. They certainly didn't play like a team which before Euro started was supposed to be the best one in the competition. Even the refereeing disappointed me. Not just the disallowed goal but I saw some clear fouls commited by England that the ref completely failed to spot.

WE SHALL AVENGE YOU!

[Ghostavo]

NO YOU WON'T!

[karajorma]

Actually since I'm part Portuguese I'm probably going to be rooting for them. It wasn't their fault that the referee was blind. Neither was it their fault that we were ****

[TopAce]

Do I remember well that Backham missed another penalty in Euro2000 as well?

I feel sorry for England, I wouldn't say they played badly.
I cheer for Holland and the Czechs.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by TopAce
Do I remember well that Backham missed another penalty in Euro2000 as well?

I feel sorry for England, I wouldn't say they played badly.

What match were you watching? England completely failed to retain possession and instead huddled around the goal mouth like the last survivors of a massacre.

Sure their defensive play wasn't bad but the point is that they should never have been playing defensively in the first place. Only an idiot would attempt to defend a 1-0 lead for 90 minutes but that's precisely what England attempted to do even though it had cost us the game against France (not to mention the game against Brazil).

And yes. Beckham missed a penalty against France that would have put us 2-0 up.

[TopAce]

I was talking about England vs. Portugal.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by TopAce
I was talking about England vs. Portugal.

So was I

I would have thought that was clear.

[TopAce]

Wasn't it?

[karajorma]

Where's the big smiley when you need it.

[TopAce]

((Misunderstanding discussed))

[karajorma]

Sarcasm is just another 7 letter word you don't know the meaning of isn't it TopAce?

[aldo_14]

[01010]

Chris Waddles ball is still in the troposphere, even Beckhams kick can't match that.

[Flipside]

Well, I must admit, I half expected the ball in this years Euro to develop a pair of eyes and start talking like Windsor Davies.

Looks like something out of a 70's sci-fi movie

[Rictor]

Originally posted by aldo_14

Its funny cause its true. Pretty boy can't shoot penalties worth crap.

After today's Czech victory over Denmark, I'm starting to doubt Greek's chances against them. Having the highest scoring Euro 2004 player is bound to give the Czechs the edge. But here's hoping.

oh, and I really, really hope that Portugal thoroughly smashes Holland.  Not only will there be much celebration in my neighborhood (lots of Portugese) but also that I just couldn't bear to see the Dutchies through to the finals. C'mon Karma, show me some love.

[vyper]

****ing hell I've heard too much of this.

I'm a Scotsman, and thus it's my national duty to wish England well in losing to everyone. However, this abuse of Beckham is unfair - he plays solid games, continuous levels of play. Just because he doesn't go charging up and make rooney (sp?) look slow doesn't make him a bad player.

As for penalties - think about how many he's put away in his career against those that he's missed.

[01010]

Originally posted by vyper


As for penalties - think about how many he's put away in his career against those that he's missed.

What is it, 3-4 misses at international level against how many scored? I agree with you, the guy isn't on form of late but he isn't a turkey, not yet.