[Knight Templar]

Because DS9 was good. And Voyager was bad. You wouldn't understand fully either way, unless you saw both shows.

Now go out into the real world, and find them on DVD somewhere.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by ZylonBane


Probably this bit:

Although a bit of Googling reveals that it's actually one of those freaky industry terms which they've thankfully kept to themselves.

I know, but the term was written only on cinescape and some trek site, which both had .com  on the end and thus were likely US-based. (i.e. not a quote from the beeb).

[Star Dragon]

I'm not sure WHEN Gene died, But he had gotten TNG off the ground first (and created scripts for many other projects that later took off like Earth Final Conflict, and Andromeda).  When he died you could tell how not only control of the show, but it's very feel changed... B & B seem to treat the whole Trek franchise as nothing but a $ maker. Remember they had the final say on scripts (unless Majel butted in) and many times continuity was thrown out the window. Things got worse as time went on DS9 had some very good moments, as well as ****ty ones. Later Voyager suffered as well adn had IMHO a lot fewer good episodes as plots were becomming overused and tiresome.

   Now the final straw with Enterprise. Maybe this is where they thought "Ok NOW we can get creative and show how brilliant we are!"

  WRONG!

  Enterprise is a PREQUEL if you F up this continuity you basicly throw the rest of Trek out the window and alienate us legion of fans...  I have to stop now I am ranting...

[TrashMan]

I agree...

TNG rocks, DS9 sucks, VOY super-sucks!

[ZylonBane]

Fool. DS9 is the best post-TOS Trek of all! Aside from Patrick Stewart, most of TNG's primary cast couldn't act their way out of a paper bag.

[J3Vr6]

lol what was the name of that red headed ladies son?  She was like the doctor on one of the ST shows and her son in the show was the worst actor, I think it was Next Generation... Years later I saw him on a video game channel (G4) doing reviews for games.

[Grey Wolf]

Roddenberry died before Season 4 of TNG, IIRC.

On Patrick Stewart: Beware - Unkown British Shakespearean Actor.
(That's a quote, actually)

[Liberator]

He wasn't unknown.  He was in Dune a few year before TNG got started.

He's kind of a conundrum anyway.  I mean here's this ACTOR who was doing Shakespeare for Her Majesty and he decides to punt it all away and has since become a Sci Fi Icon by portraying both Picard and Professor X.

[J3Vr6]

Punt it all away?  Are you mad?  He is established and respected the world over.  U think it was a bad career move, but his stint in ST opened up doors and possibillities probably not accessilbe to him before.

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by Liberator
He wasn't unknown.  He was in Dune a few year before TNG got started.

He's kind of a conundrum anyway.  I mean here's this ACTOR who was doing Shakespeare for Her Majesty and he decides to punt it all away and has since become a Sci Fi Icon by portraying both Picard and Professor X.

That's actually from a sign that he had on the door of his trailer throughout the filming of the entire series

[Star Dragon]

ops (ignore) double post and it wouldn't let me delete it! No permission..

[Star Dragon]

It was actor Wil Wheaton (first Stand by me - SK's 'The body', most recent PYTHON! With Casper -The freindly ghost - VanDien and FEDDY - Robert Englund). He played Crewboy (and later Ensign) Wesley Crusher.

  The funny/tragic thing was they got his butt for Nemisis and he spent 3 days shooting for that wedding reception scene and he actually ahd lines and **** then they decide (most likely B&B) to delete it all and just have him visible for like 3 secs as people dance by the actors forcused in the shot around a table or some crap like that... WTF?  I mean WHY go to all that F-ing trouble the time money ect. If you didn't want him in the first place? GOD I hate stupid **** like that. Wheaton explained this story on an interview about 6 months after nemisis came out cause a fan asked the question of why we didn't see more of him.

  BTW WHO cane up with the brilliant Kirk halo jumping scene that was deleted from Generations? God this was so lame I am actually GLAD they deleted it! If you never found it online the scene begins with a man in freefall way up in the atmosphere (obviously with some HALO gear) and eventually he gets close enough to the ground and pops his shute. Chekov and Scotty rode a vehicle to the landing area in a field and are lokking up at the sky saying, "Can ya see him?". Then when he makes a decent landing and takes off his helmet you see it was Kirk (gee he drank his Ensure today huh?).

[Grey Wolf]

That scene was in the novelization, IIRC.