[Deepblue]

It's split screen only. (damnit!)

If they don't include online co-op in Halo 3, Bungie will be quite behind the curve.

[StratComm]

I disagree.  What makes console multiplayer fun in my opinion is the split screen.  You have to be physically there, socially with the person you're playing with or against.  Voiceover and such helps a little, but there's no substitute for the human contact.  Back in the days I used to play Goldeneye, I remember the most fun part of multi was the reactions of the people you were playing against, and you just can't get that through a cable.

[Deepblue]

But I like having the whole screen!

Anyway, no one said they had to get rid of splitscreen co-op, just have online co-op as well please!

[Triple Ace]

I'm all for it (if it is real) seeing as I'm going to get a new PC sometime this year anyway.

[aldo_14]

I disagree.  What makes console multiplayer fun in my opinion is the split screen.  You have to be physically there, socially with the person you're playing with or against.  Voiceover and such helps a little, but there's no substitute for the human contact.  Back in the days I used to play Goldeneye, I remember the most fun part of multi was the reactions of the people you were playing against, and you just can't get that through a cable.

Multiplayer is always better with a mate...........

[SadisticSid]

I wonder how Bungie will tie it exclusively to Vista. Maybe use some nice little proprietary timer code that's exclusive to it, or something equally sneaky. If it's just a version check, it'll be cracked in days.

[starfox]

Vista...What kind of name is that 
Longhorn was much cooler.

As for the Halo 2 itself, never had any experience for the Halo, or Halo 2 for that matter.
MAYBE I would have considered buying, if it weren't such a resource hog

[Deepblue]

That was Gearbox's fault.

[starfox]

ooops, my bad. 
That's brings up a question:
Is the Gearbox involved in Halo 2 as well ?

[aldo_14]

ooops, my bad. 
That's brings up a question:
Is the Gearbox involved in Halo 2 as well ?

Nope.  In-house-but-side development team, IIRC Bungie were recruiting specifically for a port team rather than handing it off.

[Cobra]

i only have this to do:

[Roanoke]

I disagree.  What makes console multiplayer fun in my opinion is the split screen.  You have to be physically there, socially with the person you're playing with or against.  Voiceover and such helps a little, but there's no substitute for the human contact.  Back in the days I used to play Goldeneye, I remember the most fun part of multi was the reactions of the people you were playing against, and you just can't get that through a cable.

Agreed. Back playing Halo (1) I found a rocket launcher on a DM game with our kid and ran after him firing rockets. Watching them flying past his head in his viewport was proper funny.

I actually quike liked Halo2 but it's what, 2 years old ?

[Grug]

Yeah I posted a civilized yet bitter post on their site expressing my concern that Bungie had become completely Microsoft 'incorporated', and that I only hope that future games do not suffer because of it.

I have a sneaking suspicion that my post was deleted... =/

I am irate towards the Bungie web team, often imature and scornfull.
But I tell myself what do I expect, especially from a Microsoft integrated company based in Texas. (err... no offense btw)

[Deepblue]

Based in Texas???

What the hell are you talking about?

And, the Bungie team themselves still seem open to the possibility of Halo 2 for their Mac faithful (you know, the fans they had BEFORE Halo).

[Grug]

Don't deny me my phantasy damn it! ><

[Shade]

Never cared that much for Halo anyway. Too much thinking, too little gore, attitude and sheer fun. FPS's have been going downhill since Duke Nukem 3D if you ask me.

[Triple Ace]

Are you on crack? I think the have gotten much better.

[vyper]

Direct X 10 - or Direct X as their calling it (roman numerals) is intergrated into Vista, in fact vista requires it to run. Halo 2 will probably be ported over to be reliable on DX10 - even though this is stupid as it could probably run on DX7...

And dont think of it as spending 200+ quid on a game - youll upgrade to vista eventually. pirate or not.

Halo 2 is DX8/9.

In other words they've upgraded the DX code in the Halo engine just so they can force people to buy Vista. Not the best design practise in the world.

[aldo_14]

I've heard DX9.0c is designed to be non-backwards compatible with earlier versions, so it's probably part of a trend.

[achtung]

I've heard DX9.0c is designed to be non-backwards compatible with earlier versions, so it's probably part of a trend.

So in other words, I may want to avoid that update in order to play games that use previous versions of DirectX?