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Offline Mars

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It does a better job than the Ursa, and the turret is better becasue its a Prometheus S turret
The Boanerges has no turret. :shaking:

 

Offline FireCrack

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Also, the ursa has a kayser turret...
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Mars

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[quoteOh man i hate the artemis with a passion.
The artemis is awesome for bombing, but i hate where the ****ing gunpoints are located.
I like the fact that it shoots for lasers at the same time, but they're way too offset for dogfighting or even hitting a turret accurately.
The athena on the other hand, the most powerful laser you could put on it was the avenger, but it had very concentrated gunpoints, the athena equipped with avengers was still very powerful.
Plus the athena was tough as ****, it could take a whole lot of punishment, i wished that the athena was in fs2, i swear as a fighter, it could take a lot of punishment.
But, my main choice of bomber is the Sekhmet, it's like a shivan bomber, but way cooler.
Also fast, takes punishment, and can get the job done:)
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Its not like the Ursa DIDNT have that problem...  Dude, three of the banks are offset so you need to aim OUTSIDE of your reticle to hit an enemy ship thats smaller than the middle of your HUD reticle.....
However, the Ursa had its guns offset to one side, making it possible to adjust, it requires superhuman powers to make all the shots from the Artemis hit. By the way Zman, none of the Terran bombers have Prometheus S turrets, the Medusa has a Prometheus R however, could you be thinking of that?

You know, until this moment, I never realized what a hot bed bombers were for being controversial ships, the Boanerges and Zeus in preticular have their proponents and opponents, it's like the Fenris or the Colossus.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2006, 07:18:28 pm by Mars »

 

Offline S-99

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The ursa i've found is easier to aim with than the artemis.
At least the ursa has most of it's pummeling weapon banks on one side.
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Offline TrashMan

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Athena is the king of lighter bomber is you ask me..

For bigger ones - the Ursa.
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Offline FireCrack

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The only bomb the athena could carry was the stilleto though, most modern fighters can do it's task.
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline aceofspades

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I would elaborate my ealier statement by stating that the Sekhmet is the coolest bomber, if not one of the coolest fighters/bombers, in FS2 (and FS1). Speaking of which, we should have a HLP-wide poll asking about the coolest ships, with a general category and a player-flyable-only category. We could even include ships from the most-played mods.
Btw, would anyone like to share techniques for intercepting bomber attacks? I've noticed that my gameplay has gone through several distinct phases, with changes in things like preferred weapons, energy distribution, and proportion of time spent intercepting bombs as opposed to bombers, and even orders to wingmen. It's interesting that a space combat sim can provide that degree of decision-making to the player.
I wonder if the Shivans eat chocolate? Or play FS2, for that matter.

 

Offline Jopi

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I would elaborate my ealier statement by stating that the Sekhmet is the coolest bomber, if not one of the coolest fighters/bombers, in FS2 (and FS1). Speaking of which, we should have a HLP-wide poll asking about the coolest ships, with a general category and a player-flyable-only category. We could even include ships from the most-played mods.
Btw, would anyone like to share techniques for intercepting bomber attacks? I've noticed that my gameplay has gone through several distinct phases, with changes in things like preferred weapons, energy distribution, and proportion of time spent intercepting bombs as opposed to bombers, and even orders to wingmen. It's interesting that a space combat sim can provide that degree of decision-making to the player.

IMHO, the most important thing in interception is firepower. This can be substituted to speed but only to some extent. With heavy weapons, you have the means of taking down a bomber quickly. You need to manage your energy a lot more than in a dogfight. Engines when you're intercepting, weapons when you get into weapons range. This becomes essential when you have power draining guns such as Kayser.
Missiles are a great asset in taking down the bombers. Trebuchet is obviously an excellent missile because of its range and payload. Just memorize how many Trebs it takes to shoot down a certain class of bomber, and you can easily pick the off from 5 klicks. Tornados also pack a nice punch and have a fast lock time. Especially in the early game, Tempests can clear entire waves of bombers. They are a nice standby if you happen to run out of weapon energy.
I don't generally shoot bombs, only if they happen to be in my sights. Most ships have guns that can deal with the bombs provided they have enough time. Every second you waste shooting at bombs the bombers get nearer their target. Shooting bombs might be necessary if the ship in question is some light transport/freighter, or badly damaged. Just make sure there is someone (your wingmen, for example) to deal with the bombers.

 

Offline FireCrack

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actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Prophet

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Ever tried shooting down bombs with aspect seekers? Thats fun!
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Offline Mars

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I've always wanted extreme fast-lock on, very small damage, fairly long range missles for taking down bombs.

 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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Even better, long range aspect-seeking cluster warhead, that detonates some distance from the bombs with a forward cone explosion, and releases some aspect seekers (or heat if it needs to be) with "target only bombs" flags.  Another idea I had was for a bomber wing killer, but only works with TAG-slaved turrets.  It would be a conventional cluster weapon like the Piranah, but has an EMP blast-wave and releases heat-seeking TAGs.  It disorients the bombers, disables the bombs, and lights the bombers up for AAA turrets.
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Offline CP5670

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I would elaborate my ealier statement by stating that the Sekhmet is the coolest bomber, if not one of the coolest fighters/bombers, in FS2 (and FS1).

Yeah, the Sekhmet is excellent in just about every way, by far the best bomber in FS2. It has the same bomb capacity, armor and shielding levels as the Ursa, but without the Ursa's off centered primaries and large size. Its maneuverability is superior to any other GTVA bomber and the speed is also above average for heavy bombers. It's actually quite effective as a heavy fighter and in fact, it used to be the second most popular ship in TvT games on PXO, next to only the Herc II. It doesn't have a turret, but its other characteristics make it much more effective against fighters than the Ursa or Medusa anyway. I think the only real limitation is that its weapon energy reserve is only average, which causes the quad primary bank to run through it quickly when firing something like a maxim. And of course, it looks ugly as sin. :p
« Last Edit: April 12, 2006, 12:15:01 am by CP5670 »

 

Offline neo_hermes

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Sekhmet is the best bomber!...
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Offline S-99

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He he he :)
I sekhmet that :lol:
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

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