[TrashMan]

Alcohol = evil.

thank the God I'm not ruler of hte world, for you would be exectued if caught drunk or stoned.

[vyper]

Alcohol = evil.

thank the God I'm not ruler of hte world, for you would be exectued if caught drunk or stoned.

[Nuclear1]

Alcohol = evil.

thank the God I'm not ruler of hte world, for you would be exectued if caught drunk or stoned.

In other news, Ireland and most of California was swiped clean off the map as an Eastern European dictator rose to power...

[Flipside]

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That's one of the most incredible blanket-statement's I've heard in my life.

You do realise that this would include Christ who turned water into wine?

[aldo_14]

Alcohol = evil.

thank the God I'm not ruler of hte world, for you would be exectued if caught drunk or stoned.

That's true.  Every morning I wake up and think, "thank **** Trashman isn't in a position of power".  I mean, you'd have universal CCTV surveillance, racial profiling, etc but you'd ban alcohol?

[an0n]

You do realise that this would include Christ who turned water into wine?

That's a really horrible example.

I mean, they nailed the guy to a cross and stabbed him with a spear for that ****, and since then everything's been coming up roses.

[Flipside]

Well, it was good for the soil

Seriously though, defining a fermented mixture as 'evil' is kinda silly to say the least, that's the only reason I used the analogy. The Egyptians and Syrians were brewing beer thousands of years ago (and snorting cocaine) and STILL managed to get the Pyramids built, possibly in record time of they had enough coke.

[an0n]

They built dozens of huge stone pyramids.

Huge. Stone. Pyramids.

And you're trying to tell me that snorting cocaine and drinking beer aren't evil?

[Flipside]

They also worked out enough of geometry and architecture to be able to build them, as well as astronomy and mathmatics skills. This was also at a stage where other races were busy hitting each over the head with big sticks....

So I think that's a Yes.

Strictly speaking, the coke was more of a Pharoic habit, and all they had to do was be figureheads, admittedly

[Nuclear1]

They built dozens of huge stone pyramids.

Yep, anything's possible with hard work, determination, and a seemingly-endless supply of Hebrew slaves.

[Flipside]

They didn't use slaves to build the pyramids, they used work-gangs who were hired. It was the need for those work gangs that led, in part, to the creation of agriculture. Also, this was long before the Israelites were in Egypt.

[Herra Tohtori]

...The Egyptians and Syrians were brewing beer thousands of years ago (and snorting cocaine) and STILL managed to get the Pyramids built, possibly in record time of they had enough coke.

I sincerely doubt that Egyptians and Syrians of the Old Age would've had cocaine at their disposal, as the coca (Erythroxylum coca) actually originates in South America. On the other hand, the point itself is valid, as Peruvian indians for example did chew coca all the time and still managed to build, say, Machu Picchu. Granted that coca leaves themselves are quite mild stuff compared to crystalline cocaine itself - alcaloid consentration is not very remarkable on leaves themselves.

On the old world, however, cannabis and opium have been known for a long time, not to mention King Alcohol.

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Hmmm.. coulda been Opium I was thinking of, which makes the pyramids even more of an achievment

[Janos]

Alcohol = evil.

thank the God I'm not ruler of hte world, for you would be exectued if caught drunk or stoned.

this is interesting and i would like to know jsut why and how you have arrived in such a conclusion

[Steel01]

You do realise that this would include Christ who turned water into wine?

No it would not. The Bible refers to 'new wine', or unfermented. It was plain grape juice. Do some research.
The Bible contains plenty of references saying to abstain from alcohol.

[Flipside]

It was Satire

Trust me, if I wanted to point out the fallacies of Alcohol with reasonable comments, I'd pick a better example.

I rest my case about Pedantics anonymous...

Of course, I just realised....It's Springtime....

[Goober5000]

You do realise that this would include Christ who turned water into wine?

No it would not. The Bible refers to 'new wine', or unfermented. It was plain grape juice. Do some research.
The Bible contains plenty of references saying to abstain from alcohol.

Dude, the master of a wedding banquet knows the difference between wine and grape juice.  Plus he pronounced Jesus's vintage better than all the others.

There's also this:

For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." '

They couldn't accuse him of being a drunkard if he never drank wine.

There's nothing wrong with drinking.  Getting drunk is a different matter, of course. Regardless, this is about privacy, not drinking vs. staying sober.

[Flipside]

And for extra clarification...

John 2:1-11

Three days later Mary, the mother of Jesus, was at a wedding feast in the village of Cana in Galilee. 2 Jesus and his disciples had also been invited and were there.
3 When the wine was all gone, Mary said to Jesus, “They don’t have any more wine.”
4 Jesus replied, “Mother, my time hasn’t yet come! You must not tell me what to do.”
5 Mary then said to the servants, “Do whatever Jesus tells you to do.”
6 At the feast there were six stone water jars that were used by the people for washing themselves in the way that their religion said they must. Each jar held about twenty or thirty gallons. 7 Jesus told the servants to fill them to the top with water. Then after the jars had been filled, 8 he said, “Now take some water and give it to the man in charge of the feast.”
The servants did as Jesus told them, 9 and the man in charge drank some of the water that had now turned into wine. He did not know where the wine had come from, but the servants did. He called the bridegroom over 10 and said, “The best wine is always served first. Then after the guests have had plenty, the other wine is served. But you have kept the best until last!”
11 This was Jesus’ first miracle, and he did it in the village of Cana in Galilee. There Jesus showed his glory, and his disciples put their faith in him.

You mean they served the bad grape juice first??

[Steel01]

Jesus never drank an alcoholic beverage.

http://www.av1611.org/drug.html
About 3/4th's down the page:

What about when Jesus turned the water into wine at the marriage in Cana. If Jesus Christ turned water into fermented liquor, he directly disobeyed Habakkuk 2:15, "Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also . . ." And, if Jesus disobeyed Habakkuk - HE WAS A SINNER! The Bible makes it very clear in 1 Peter 2:22, 2 Corinthians 5:21, and other verses -  THAT JESUS CHRIST WAS WITHOUT SIN!

The KJV Bible clearly states that alcohol is a sin and has dire consequences. In Proverbs 23:

"Who hath WOE? Who hath SORROW? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? THEY THAT TARRY LONG AT THE WINE; they that go to seek mixed wine. Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. At the last it BITETH LIKE A SERPENT, AND STINGETH LIKE AN ADDER. Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things."

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No, if you sought to make another person drunk using alcohol then you are a sinner, not if you give him an alcooholic beverage, both those quotes say nothing of drinking, only of drunkeness. It does not imply that drinking in moderate amounts is wrong in any way. It does not say 'They that drink wine', it says 'They that tarry long', in others, 'They that spend too long drinking'.