[aldo_14]

View the video linked after the first pic.

http://invisionfree.com/forums/worldofstuart/index.php?showtopic=2912&st=0&#entry2573455

[FireCrack]

Eww... real player...

[Turambar]

Eww... real player...

real alternative

how do you guys not find these things

i always get them, because im absolutely certain that somehow, they use quicktime and realplayer to steal my personal information.

as for your racist politicians, well, i got two words for ya:  Strom Thurmond

[karajorma]

Loved the bit where he was calling everything marxist. Well I suppose if you're very far right anything else seems really left wing. This guy probably thinks that UKIP are marxists too.

[aldo_14]

Loved the bit where he was calling everything marxist. Well I suppose if you're very far right anything else seems really left wing. This guy probably thinks that UKIP are marxists too.

****, he probably thinks Hitler was a nice bloke with a good set of ideas who just needed a bit more conviction to make a name for himself.

[karajorma]

Actually he probably considers Hitler to be a maxist too what with him being head of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

[kasperl]

For those with sound issues (as in someone trying to sleep on the other side of a cardboard-quality wall), and therefore no ability to view video, summary?

[aldo_14]

For those with sound issues (as in someone trying to sleep on the other side of a cardboard-quality wall), and therefore no ability to view video, summary?

The BNP are bat**** insane.

Little more detailed;
The Conservatives, Liberal Democrats, Labour, and the Church are all Marxists.  The 3 political parties have all made a pact not to discuss immigration in any form.  People buying stuff and having more money than before is 'ripping' society apart.  The BNP would ideally like to return to 40-50 years ago, when it was better and the country was mainly white.  Um.... oh, we have people coming from 3rd world countries after being ethnically cleansed, and we are now being ethnically cleansed (exact terms used).  The BNP would set aside £1bn of taxpayer money to pay immigrants to leave the country and would ideally like to remove all of them (i.e. non whites). 

Here's a couple of quotes (check the linked thread)

"Anybody getting married next week, they've got a 50-50 chance that it won't last 5 minutes"

"There was a gang fight... I don't know what they were, Kosovans or Albanians or something like that"

[Bobboau]

owned maybe, 'Bat**** insane' I wouldn't go that far, he doesn't realy sound much diferent than our conservitive party realy.

[Fineus]

Is it frightening that up untill about 3:40 odd into the movie... I agreed with him? We are fuelled by consumerism and there is a lot of additional tax compared with past years.

That doesn't mean I agree with everything he/they say - but they're making one or two valid points as well.

[Grey Wolf]

Is it frightening that up untill about 3:40 odd into the movie... I agreed with him? We are fuelled by consumerism and there is a lot of additional tax compared with past years.

That doesn't mean I agree with everything he/they say - but they're making one or two valid points as well.

To paraphrase the famous quote, they'll keep the trains running on time.

Doesn't excuse anything else they say.

[Goober5000]

Is it frightening that up untill about 3:40 odd into the movie... I agreed with him? We are fuelled by consumerism and there is a lot of additional tax compared with past years.

That doesn't mean I agree with everything he/they say - but they're making one or two valid points as well.

Yarr.  Good to have people who speak their mind.  We need more of these good, solid, debates, not the mealy-mouthed stuff you see on CNN.

[aldo_14]

owned maybe, 'Bat**** insane' I wouldn't go that far, he doesn't realy sound much diferent than our conservitive party realy.

Why, does your conservative party accuse every other party of being Marxists and accuse refugees of ethnically cleansing white people?

[Grug]

Is it frightening that up untill about 3:40 odd into the movie... I agreed with him? We are fuelled by consumerism and there is a lot of additional tax compared with past years.

That doesn't mean I agree with everything he/they say - but they're making one or two valid points as well.

Yarr.  Good to have people who speak their mind.  We need more of these good, solid, debates, not the mealy-mouthed stuff you see on CNN.

You agree with some of the other points raised as well?

[Fineus]

He never said that (though he might, I'm not him).

I do agree though.. solid debate and opinion are something lost in todays political parties. Part of the state of this country rests on opinion - not how the fact are presented. Meaning that yes - you could say more money has been spent on the NHS recently than ever before - but that doesn't excuse its failings which are there for all to see. The state of the transport network, the police' over eager attitude towards speed cameras as a third-party source of revenue, the tendency to give smaller / reduced sentences to criminals so that the out-dated jail system isn't put under undue stress, ID cards, immigration laws...

...these are all things that "joe public" complains about every day. The facts to back up these complaints may not be clear cut and reflect these views but that doesn't alter the opinion each person holds. It's time someone (not necessarily the BNP) addressed these things openly and prepared themselves to find out what people really think.

[aldo_14]

He never said that (though he might, I'm not him).

Said what?  My quote above?  He bloody well did, watch it again near the end.  I believe the quote is roughly 'some of these people have come from the 3rd world after being ethnically cleansed.  Now we're the ones being ethnically cleansed'.  This following a 'warning' that whites will be a minority in the Uk within xx years (who gives a ****?).

[Cyker]

Be very careful.

Yes he raises many valid points - This doesn't mean they will act on them.

This guy is smart - He is very charismatic and seems to have learned the skill of social engineering as used by black hats and con men everywhere.

It's an old trick - Raise valid points then throw in your real ones, and people will associate them and eventually come to think of the bad points as valid too.
Adolf Hitler did similar things; He too had the knowledge of how to hack the mind of a mob.

[aldo_14]

Smart?  He's thick as 2 short planks nailed together and encased in concrete.  Bear in mind - the BNP tries to pretend it's not racist.  9 minutes of this guy unscripted shows how much of a lie that is.

[karajorma]

I'd love to know if anyone has ever been stupid enough to buy that.

[Grug]

He never said that (though he might, I'm not him).

Hence the question...

I do agree though.. solid debate and opinion are something lost in todays political parties. Part of the state of this country rests on opinion - not how the fact are presented. Meaning that yes - you could say more money has been spent on the NHS recently than ever before - but that doesn't excuse its failings which are there for all to see. The state of the transport network, the police' over eager attitude towards speed cameras as a third-party source of revenue, the tendency to give smaller / reduced sentences to criminals so that the out-dated jail system isn't put under undue stress, ID cards, immigration laws...

...these are all things that "joe public" complains about every day. The facts to back up these complaints may not be clear cut and reflect these views but that doesn't alter the opinion each person holds. It's time someone (not necessarily the BNP) addressed these things openly and prepared themselves to find out what people really think.

Similar editing in media happens here. Getting access to a full unaltered version of a press release can sometimes be a rare and factual experience. It also opens ones eyes to how much spin the media put on things.

As for the UK's clogged prison system, there's been some jokes flying around down here in Australia. They mostly include inviting you guys to dump your prisoners here again, but us putting them to work in the uranium mines.