[Turambar]

And then get bogged down in a situation ten times worse than Iraq?

because previously their situation was only approximately 2.33 times worse than iraq

[aldo_14]

I believe the term is striking while the iron is hot.

And then getting burnt.

[karajorma]

Go in. Sweep the place. When you're done give it to the UN to sort out. Precisely what they should have done in Iraq.

At which point the UN would say "**** you. You deal with it" just like they said to the US when they suggested that they help out in Iraq.

[vyper]

Here, Sarnie - you been drafted yet? BBC is reporting reserves are being called up.

[Nuclear1]

Go in. Sweep the place. When you're done give it to the UN to sort out. Precisely what they should have done in Iraq.

At which point the UN would say "**** you. You deal with it" just like they said to the US when they suggested that they help out in Iraq.

Thus proving the UN's usefulness in resolving international conflict. If the UN is just going to go around telling countries that get involved in wars to shove it and fix it themselves while innocent civilians die, then where's the organization's ****ing point?

[vyper]

To handle situations like this, which is why the UN is discussing a possible peace keeping force for the region. The UN doesn't exist to give countries like Israel carte blance to go and **** up their neighbours and expect the UN to heal all wounds and mop up the leftovers; it exists to stop these situations before they get to that stage. That won't happen so long as the US continually vetos all UNSC resolutions that don't 100% back Israel.

[karajorma]

Exactly. You can't expect the UN to go in and clean up after Israels mess without having the right to clean Israel up as well. Otherwise they'll just keep doing this sort of thing and expecting the UN to solve the problems they create.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

To handle situations like this, which is why the UN is discussing a possible peace keeping force for the region. The UN doesn't exist to give countries like Israel carte blance to go and **** up their neighbours and expect the UN to heal all wounds and mop up the leftovers; it exists to stop these situations before they get to that stage. That won't happen so long as the US continually vetos all UNSC resolutions that don't 100% back Israel.

maybe the veto wouldn't be used so much if most of those resolutions didn't come from muslim countries that would do anything to screw over israel...

In fact, maybe the UN should clean up the arab countries (to start with) cause compared to israel most are 3rd world ****holes while Israel, which has been besieged for 60 years, is rather prosperous and a democracy.

[aldo_14]

maybe the veto wouldn't be used so much if most of those resolutions didn't come from muslim countries that would do anything to screw over israel...

In the UN security council?

[vyper]

Indeed.

[Roanoke]

Go in. Sweep the place. When you're done give it to the UN to sort out. Precisely what they should have done in Iraq.

At which point the UN would say "**** you. You deal with it" just like they said to the US when they suggested that they help out in Iraq.

well when the UN said "don't do it" and the "coalition" said **** you and went to war it's not really surprising (simplified I know, but you get my point).......

[karajorma]

I don't blame them for saying it. Like I wouldn't blame them if they said it to Israel too. The reasoning would be pretty much the same in fact.

[Nuclear1]

I don't blame them for saying it. Like I wouldn't blame them if they said it to Israel too. The reasoning would be pretty much the same in fact.

You wouldn't be surprised because maybe they've been saying it to Israel for thirty years now?

This is why I don't trust or don't approve of the UN in the least. They talk big and yell at aggressive countries for starting wars, but they don't actually do anything practical to prevent said wars. Diplomacy will only go so far with countries with powerful militaries and a fervent belief in a cause, and since the US, which has defied the UN to date, supports Israel technologically and militarily there's not much to stop Israel from saying "**** you, UN," and using military force against those that truly want Israel destroyed.

Crazy Ivan is actually somewhat right: the UN is majorly anti-Israel, and the US catches flak for (among other things) supporting Israel and using its veto to protect Israel (even with that, 88 resolutions in the Security Council have been passed to condemn Israel for a number of things, and 321 times in the General Assembly). The UN condemns Zionism as racism, but what about anti-Semitism being preached by the Muslim countries?

Israel's just taking matters into its own hands now; the UN sure as hell isn't going to stop Hezbollah, Hamas, or any other terrorist organization in the Middle East from killing Israelis, so Israel will.

[karajorma]

And who's going to stop Israelis killing Palestinians?

Remember that the number of deaths since this started is 10 times higher for Palestinians than Israelis.

[xenthorious]

And who's going to stop Israelis killing Palestinians?

Remember that the number of deaths since this started is 10 times higher for Palestinians than Israelis.

If countries like Syria get involve with this affair, we’ll have a domino effect leading us to a really big mess that may potentially be classified as World War 3.   As we speak, politicians (the stupid ones) are already empathizing U.S. forces going in and raiding Syria.  Though I highly doubt it will happen, I wouldn’t be shocked if it did either.

Of course I understand why these politicians would be saying this but I think they only picked this time to say it because they want attention.  IMO, this would be the dumbest of times to do it.  These politician’s don’t give a rats a$$ about the lives of our troops or the civilians in Syria if we go and do a raid.  Even more disturbing is the fact that they don’t give a flying $hit of the consequences that may result if other nations get involved, both forth and against the U.S.’s interest.

[ZylonBane]

The solution is simple-- relocate the entire population of Palestine to Nevada.

[achtung]

The solution is simple-- relocate the entire population of Palestine to Nevada.

Then we have to deal with them. 

[Mefustae]

Then we have to deal with them. 

Yeah, but then the rest of the world doesn't have to. After all, the needs of the many...

[achtung]

Then we have to deal with them. 

Yeah, but then the rest of the world doesn't have to. After all, the needs of the many...

Then why don't you just take them?

[Mefustae]

Australia takes a good portion of Asian tourists, we've got enough on our hands!

But what has Nevada got, apart from the odd Extra-Terrestrial and hoards of problem gamblers?