[aldo_14]

OMG I can't believe this thread is still going 

What is this thread hoping to achieve? Is anyone actually deriving any enjoyment out of it?  Who else things this thread needs to   

Why do you care?

[IPAndrews]

I'm a caring person. I hate to see people winding themselves up for no good reason.

[aldo_14]

I'm a caring person. I hate to see people winding themselves up for no good reason.

But what if they think it's a good reason?

[karajorma]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

It's not that Israel is trying to kill civilians its that they don't care how many they kill as long as they kill some people from Hezbollah too. The only thing that does prevent civilian casualties is the bad PR it would give them.

[Colonol Dekker]

Its a bit extreme i grant, But its their choice, their couintry and their right to defend, as is Hez's right to defend themselves. I suppose attrition may come into it soon......

[Kosh]

Its a bit extreme i grant, But its their choice, their couintry and their right to defend, as is Hez's right to defend themselves. I suppose attrition may come into it soon......

That still doesn't give them the right to bomb the UN.

[Mefustae]

That still doesn't give them the right to bomb the UN.

Awwww, what are they going to do about it?

[vyper]

If they were British UN workers, we could do a lot. We do have a damned battlegroup sitting off their coast due to the civilian rescue operation. We are unlikely to though.

[Fear]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

It's not that Israel is trying to kill civilians its that they don't care how many they kill as long as they kill some people from Hezbollah too. The only thing that does prevent civilian casualties is the bad PR it would give them.

Stupid thing you just saied.Israel is not an 8 year old boy.

[karajorma]

Actually a frequent complaint leveled at both sides is that they are acting like children.

And if you insist on calling people stupid just cause they disagree with you without offering any counter argument I'm going to be forced to conclude that you're simply covering for the fact that you don't actually have a counter argument.

[aldo_14]

On the subject;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5218036.stm

British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett has protested to the US about its use of a Scottish airport to transport bombs to Israel.

Amid the Lebanon crisis, Mrs Beckett said it seemed the US was not following the right procedures over arms flights.

(just in case you think it's the British government growing a moral backbone, they're complaining about 'safety')

[Mefustae]

Wait, the US is actively supplying arms to Israel during a crisis pretty much the entire world is opposed to?

[aldo_14]

Wait, the US is actively supplying arms to Israel during a crisis pretty much the entire world is opposed to?

Yup.

More burgeoning insanity;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5219360.stm

Israel says diplomats' decision not to call for a halt to its Lebanon offensive at a Middle East summit has given it the green light to continue.

"We received yesterday at the Rome conference permission from the world... to continue the operation," Justice Minister Haim Ramon said.

(I think the US & UK were the only countries to object to the term 'immediate' before ceasefire in the statement)

and

He said that in order to prevent casualties amongst Israeli soldiers battling Hezbollah militants in southern Lebanon, villages should be flattened by the Israeli air force before ground troops move in.

'All southerners terrorists'

He added that Israel had given the civilians of southern Lebanon ample time to quit the area and therefore anyone still remaining there can be considered Hezbollah supporters.

"All those now in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to Hezbollah," Mr Ramon said.

[Mefustae]

****ing inept UN. What's the point of having it if it can't do ****? Honestly, it's going the way of the damn League of Nations.

[Shade]

The only problem with the UN is that certain countries can veto resolutions at will. Take that away and it would actually work as intended.

[Mefustae]

The whole thing needs an overhaul, really. I mean, you've got an organisation that operates just like it did in the post-WW2 age when it was formed, which just ain't right any way you look at it.

[aldo_14]

The concept of having the assembly, and then placing all the power in an elite cabal of Security Council nations, is what ****s up the UN.

[Mefustae]

Exactly. But then, they can't exactly solve the problem overnight, and it'd be a tenuous issue indeed to try to take veto powers away from the permanent members.

[aldo_14]

Exactly. But then, they can't exactly solve the problem overnight, and it'd be a tenuous issue indeed to try to take veto powers away from the permanent members.

Yeah, they'd veto it.

[Fear]

Actually a frequent complaint leveled at both sides is that they are acting like children.

And if you insist on calling people stupid just cause they disagree with you without offering any counter argument I'm going to be forced to conclude that you're simply covering for the fact that you don't actually have a counter argument.

Didnt call u stupid.
said what u said is stupid, you can still be smart and say stupid things sometimes. Not everything is black and white and israel has no intention to kill civilian but IT HAPPENS, in every war .Israel dont do it on purpose and i do really belive israel heads isnt sitting and saying things like lets kill as many as we can, we dont care what happens in the way. i can ensure u every operation is planned that as less civilan as possible will get hurt or no-one will get hurt. For example this is why we released an announcement to leave some vilages because they will be attack soon, and we didnt do it for the terroists im sure.