[Tahna Los]

I don't know if anyone posted this but someone had a mission which was a simulation between the Colossus and 5 Orion Class Destroyers (ala the Colossus Cutscene).  He also put in the Colossus against 5 other destroyers, then against the Hades and Lucifer.  Does anyone know where I can find it?  It's not a playable mission, more of a simulation with a lot of eye candy......

Thanks.

[Mefustae]

Just build yourself a copy?

[Colonol Dekker]

Was it standalone or part of a campaign?
Colly Vs 5xOrions should be cake to slap together........

[Mobius]

Does it exist ot you dreamed it
"The Colossus wields more firepower than 5 Orion class destroyers combined" that's the hint which has probably inspired the mission you're talking about.

[Mathwiz6]

Shounds easy to make, just place, set up attacking each other, put yourself somewhere safe, and wait.

Though...

1M hp, 100K hp...

900k, 0,

820K, 0

760K, 0,

720K, 0

700K, 0.

According to this, of the colossus has 5x the firepower of an orion, and brings it all to bear, and the orions bring all firepower to bear, then the colossus will pwn them. (though I haven't checked the damage ratings on the weaps or anything, or counted overkill)

[Bob-san]

If i get the freespace ISOs any time soon, I will make this simulation!

Another thing I will do is spawn a SJ next to the Colossus and see how the fight would be if they're both 100%...

How many wings of fighters can the Colossus carry? How many in the SJ? and how many in the Orion?

I was thinking of an all-out engagement of Colossus v. Sathanas and at the same time in the same mission Colossus Fighters + Bombers v. Sathanas Fighters + Bombers.

I'd do the same thing for Colossus v. 5 x Orion and Colossus fighters + bombers v. 5 x Orion fighers + bombers.

Remember capships like destroyers and juggernaughts are highly effective because they have firepower on the ship, but also carry many smaller ships inside.


Colossus v. Lucifer seems fun! It'll be hilarous to watch one or the other get pounded...

The Luci has like 800k HP rite? Colly has like 1M hp...

[Mad Bomber]

Quote from Colossus cutscene:
Sixty fighter and bomber wings are housed in its vast hangar...

That equals 240 combat spacecraft, which IIRC is about double that of an Orion.

[Mobius]

Quote from Colossus cutscene:
Sixty fighter and bomber wings are housed in its vast hangar...

That equals 240 combat spacecraft, which IIRC is about double that of an Orion.

And the Sathanas seems to be better suited to carry wings,so expect more than 130% of the Colossus' capability.

[Colonol Dekker]

If i get the freespace ISOs any time soon, I will make this simulation!

Another thing I will do is spawn a SJ next to the Colossus and see how the fight would be if they're both 100%...

How many wings of fighters can the Colossus carry? How many in the SJ? and how many in the Orion?

I was thinking of an all-out engagement of Colossus v. Sathanas and at the same time in the same mission Colossus Fighters + Bombers v. Sathanas Fighters + Bombers.

I'd do the same thing for Colossus v. 5 x Orion and Colossus fighters + bombers v. 5 x Orion fighers + bombers.

Remember capships like destroyers and juggernaughts are highly effective because they have firepower on the ship, but also carry many smaller ships inside.


Colossus v. Lucifer seems fun! It'll be hilarous to watch one or the other get pounded...

The Luci has like 800k HP rite? Colly has like 1M hp...

My god, its been over half a decade since i felt like doing anything like that.............To be a FS2 fred virgin again

[Bob-san]

If you are a FRED Virgin, i'm just about to hit puberty... I don't even have FRED and I still want to test my PC's preformance (it'll crash i betcha... 2ghz celeron, intel d845pesv mobo with a DIMM burnt out, 512mb pc2100 ddr ram, PNY FX 5200 with 128mb VRAM on APG 4.0, runnin WinXP). I will probably see what a all-out war would look like...

Do you think 5 Orions would be able to destroy a Sathanas? Or would it take more?

[Colonol Dekker]

Nah i'm fred menepausal, I've fredded myself blind years ago. Now i just play other peoples missions, (this is not in any way a metaphor) Your rig should handle FS2 fine.............

[Bob-san]

Of cource my 4+year-old rig won't crash on normal missions, but I'm not sure about a juggernaught and over 200 fighters and bombers!

I'll use the SEXP to change the player's ship to the Colossus, so I (and other players) will be able to control a Colossus when it gets its butt whooped by like 60 bombers!

[Colonol Dekker]

FS2 wont handle 200+fighter/bombers anyway, Unless they are winged i think... Someone else can expand on this, my knowledge of actual engine limits is sketchy, Fred and porn jokes i can handle, engine caps. nope sorry 

[Bob-san]

Well we'll be seeing what crashes it and what doesn't...

Probably put ALL the fighters+bombers in after I put the 5 orions in. If it doesn't work b/c of too many ships, I'll start by cutting in half the number of fighters+bombers. If it works, I'll put back in half the fighters+bombers I took out. Rinse, and repeat. Eventually we will have a playable mission with a ****load of fighters+bombers and a huge cap-ship fight.

[Colonol Dekker]

Fair enough, if someone know the current active limit let Bob-san know so he can save all that washing malarky..

[Bob-san]

Yeah, quite basically...

I'll probably organize them in the biggest wings I can...

I remember seeing a wing with 6 on it... I wonder if there is a setting for 12-to-a-wing... probably not.

If anyone can find any documentation of the limits of the engine... tell me please. I will start doing a number of missions with different matchups.

The current list...

Challenger v. Challenged = Predicted Outcome
Colossus + f&b v. Sathanas + f&b = Colossus
Colossus + f&b v. 5 x Orion + f&b = Colossus
5 x Orion + f&b v. Sathansa + f&b = Sathansa
Colossus + f&b v. 5 x Ravana + f&b = Colossus
5 x Orion + f&b v. 5 x Ravana + f&b = Ravana
Colossus + f&b v. Lucifer + f&b = Colossus
Colossus + f&b v. 3 x Lucifer + f&b = Lucifer
Colossus + f&b v. 5 x Hecate + f&b = Colossus
Colossus + f&b v. 5 x Arcadia + f&b = Colossus
Colossus v. 20 x Mjolnir = Mjolnir?
Colossus v. 2 x Modified "Super" Lucifer = "Super" Lucifer ~1
5 x Hecate + f&b v. Sathanas + f&b = Hecate


I actually found the Colossus to be more then a match for a Sathanas. Why? Because! I did a part of the multiplayer campaign, and didn't disable any of the Sathanas's beams. It took on the Colossus undamaged, and the Colossus survived rather well! I think an undamaged Colossus can take about two Sathanas's in a fair fight.

[Mobius]

If you are a FRED Virgin, i'm just about to hit puberty... I don't even have FRED and I still want to test my PC's preformance (it'll crash i betcha... 2ghz celeron, intel d845pesv mobo with a DIMM burnt out, 512mb pc2100 ddr ram, PNY FX 5200 with 128mb VRAM on APG 4.0, runnin WinXP). I will probably see what a all-out war would look like...

Do you think 5 Orions would be able to destroy a Sathanas? Or would it take more?

In the second Chapter of The Southern Cross,a single Orion takes down a Sathanas(jumping on its back,of course).
In the first Chapter eight(or ten,I don't remember)Mjolnirs take down a Sathanas.
Only the upgraded INF SCP Lucifer can destroy the Colossus(I had two of them taking it down).
A Sathanas takes down every ship it faces directly(4 BFRed,God!).In any other flank,the Sathanas can be easily attacked and destroyed.The Colossus is better for me because its beams are placed where they can hit everything.

[Bob-san]

You might see something like this in The Sagitta Project... my Sagitta-class Monitors are (if I find a good model) going to be awesome.

[Mobius]

You might see something like this in The Sagitta Project... my Sagitta-class Monitors are (if I find a good model) going to be awesome.

The Campaign will be good too!

[Bob-san]

When I get FRED working I'll start on my missions. G2G for the night!