Centrixo. Saying that the admins don't care about anything else than themselves and their friends is, to be honest, completely illogical and even downright insulting towards them... I ask you to consider this: HLP is a medium-sized internet community. It also provides hosting services for some rather big downloads in addition to forums. Currently it's hosted on same server with Game-Warden, another reasonably sized community, and as you surely know, bandwidth and servers cost money.
Where do you think this money is coming from? It comes from admins' pockets. Those admins that, by your words, only care about themselves and their friends. In other words, the existance of HLP is in itself a complete debunk of your claim, because if they indeed only cared about themselves and their frends they would keep all this stuff to themselves in a closed-doors community and certainly they wouldn't use
their money on making it possible for us to be here.
Also, I recommend you do some thinking about how you want to be perceived here. Because whether you believe it or not, your own behaviour is the
only thing that dictates how you are treated in Internet. In Internet, people can never have any prejudice towards each other - but starting from first impression, they start forming an image of a person who they are interacting with, and the only thing affecting that image is what you do. Not what you are like, but what you do, unlike in RealWorld(TM). Same applies to admins and moderators - they have a task to do, and it is to keep the forums civil. They cannot be expected to give privileges to anyone just because "that's who I am" -explanation.
Perhaps you should also consider this. If you get kicked out of somewhere, are the people who kicked you out responsible - or are you responsible for making them kick you out? After all, the majority of users in HLP have had no problems with adminstaration. I'm sorry to hear that ou have had. However, in most cases admins don't
want to kick anyone out. It's the last resort if other methods have failed. In which case communication breakdowns can play a vital role, but those can usually be straightened out before lasting harm is done.
the admins dont give me authourity, incase you havent heard yet is that you can create this campaign because you felt like it and all that hard work will be played by others and send them situations that havent been encountered, what the admins did is punish me and i automatically punish everyone else, from not finding out what this campaign is about from me to the community unfortunatly.
Pardon me for saying so but that gives a really, really childish image of you. Not that being childish is in any way excluded from grown-ups - just look at world politics - but it does tell something about people.
If you feel abused by admins, clear it up with them, but why do you feel like you have to punish other people for it?
Also - why in blazes would you
need special authority to create your own campaign? You have all the needed authority to do so as you are. Most people doing their own mods don't have own forums or hosted space for their stuff, you know - that's reserved for big mods/conversions that really need a lot of space and generate a lot of discussion. Most single campaigns for FS_Open are done right here on this very forum, as far as I know.
i am a persisant character, and i dont give up. im not talking myself up that is what is true, i also overreact aswell maybe because; as i said no one will help me in the right direction incase i become misguided, the same with slang english(confused and doesnt really know whats going on).
There's nothing wrong with being persistant, but the definition of truth is a thin line in water in the first place... Usually truth has something to do with
reality and
facts. And to tell the truth, I've observed cases in which you have refused to offer either facts or anecdotes to back up your opinion, you've just said that you don't want to argue and when people kept asking about it, you became hostile. And in other case, you - as far as I remember - didn't want to here any arguments that contradicted your opinion. Things like that are not the best things to do in discussion. It's the equivalent of dropping into a conversation, saying whatever - perhaps about some really emotional issue like ID theory - and when someone asked something about your opinion, you would say that you didn't ask for opinions, now STFU and accept that I'm right.
Would you enjoy immensely if someone told you that your opinion is not appreciated, go away? I think not. I certainly wouldn't like that. That's why I don't do that...
There's a difference between being persistent and being oblivious to contradictory facts or evidence, too, but let's not get to it now...
now you know what is wrong with me, when i argue i argue to the rotten end or until i become disillusioned.
There's nothing wrong in that per ce, but the techniques used must be in accordance to common forum conduit. If you violate forum rules in the process of Not Giving Up, you will be first warned (which has happened) and then other disciplinary actions follow (which seemingly has also happened). It's as simple as that. Following instructions is up to you - if you don't understand them, ask for clarification. There are several non-native english speakers understanding the instructions pretty fine, too. So saying that you didn't understand something is just trying to elude liability IMHO. If you don't understand it, ask what it means. If it's not explained to you if requested, then it's a different thing altogether.
To any degree, I have to ask why does the argument need to become rotten? In my experience, almost everything goes without admin intervention until one or another argumentee starts attacking the other one instead of his or her claims. In which stage he or she automatically loses the argument by showing that it's impossible for him/her to invalidate the claims of the other and by starting personal assault instead.
also while im talking about what im like, <my view on admins> i dont care who is an admin or not, there like everyone else, there treated the same and no different, some really like to abuse thier power if they dont get what they want. in this case it happend here, they didnt get control from me because of what i said at the beginning of this paragraph and clearly abused thier powers witch removed the floor from underneath me.
That much should be obvious for everyone... I for one wouldn't stay very long in a forum of admin asslickers getting some special treatment. Luckily, this is not one of those forums (if such exist).
I suggest you try treating everyone the same way you would treat an admin instead of treating admins the same way you treat everybody else...
That might help. Then again, I don't even think who's admin and who's not. Usually I just treat everyone with equal respect and I've never had any problems with adminstration, or individual members for that matter. And believe me, I can be persistent as well...
end of the line, the admins want to mess with me then go ahead because i wont go down without a fight. and on that note that is what has been on my whole life. i punishing everyone else from the administrations **** up, and thats simple.
Trust me, no one wants you to go unless you give a reason to think so. So take a deep breath, read the forum rules through and ask clarification if something is strangely written, because not understanding rules is not a plausible reason for not following them. It's not bad thing to ask, but ignorance to find out is and will result in things like this.
they didnt warn me about anything so this is the result, sorry guys.
Did too. If you didn't read it that is not their fault. If I remember correctly, karajorma gave you a warning after you resorted to name calling, further detail I'm not interested in.
I personally am still forming my opinion about you, and right now it seems that there have been severe, multiple misunderstanding about many things in both your end and possibly in admin end, but as I don't know more about it, I won't judge either - good thing I'm not expected to do so, too.
I also hope that you
become assimilated end up as contributive community member so that many of us may have opportunity to play your campaign.
Finally, I want to express my wish that you don't interpret this message or any part of it as an attack against your personality or be offended by it. It's not intended to be that, but just my observations and some friendly advice.
