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 http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=technologynews&StoryID=498720

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Gotta love science. Just when you think you've seen the best of what's available, they come up with something ten times better  

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I was thinking about compression like taking frequent sequences in files and associating each sequence with a letter, reducing size drastically...

 

when do we get this "compresion" program.

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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw:
when do we get this "compresion" program.


10 years
Stop... Hammertime :hammer:

 
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Eh, I'll believe it when I see it  

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the guy said 2003, i think hes full of sh*t
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Great stuff, but I think it might be a while before we see this system become a reality.

 

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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw:
I was thinking about compression like taking frequent sequences in files and associating each sequence with a letter, reducing size drastically...

That's what we have nowadays. Take GIF as an example:

Horizontal Gradient - 9KB If you have a GIF that is nothing but a color gradient, with the colors changing from top to bottom (such as the one on the right, which is 9Kb), it will compress excellently. That's because the GIF compression takes a single line (row, not column), looks for identically colored pixels, and stores a single color entry for all of those pixels. It then moves on to the next line, and goes over that line seperately from the first one. So if you have, on each line, a single color - even though the color itself changes from line to line - the compression will be excellent.

Vertical Gradient - 14KBHowever, if you do something as simple as rotate the gradient 90 degrees, so that each vertical column of pixels has a single color, you will see that the file size is significantly larger (The GIF on the left is 14Kb). This is because any single horizontal line does not contain the same colored pixel twice, so the GIF algorithm has to store specific color-data for each pixel, and each line. Ouch.  


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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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I hope they pull this off - for now Winzip is my best friend.

 

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I had this idea for a compression algorithm that would compress any file into a single equation. The problem with it is that with current processing power it would take a few decades for the thing to run over a small file... ah well, there goes my chance for fame and fortune...    
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Ahh, nuts!
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...current processing power...

There's virtually no such thing... Moore's Law is cool and all, but when you realize that every 18 months the basis for the calculation has doubled.... wow.  

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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Well, I'll wait until it doubles a few hundred times and I'll start working on it.  
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There's virtually no such thing... Moore's Law is cool and all, but when you realize that every 18 months the basis for the calculation has doubled.... wow.  

Except that we're reaching the limits of 'normal' semiconductor technology.  I think this has been the longest period in a while where there wasn't anything new coming out yesterday, soon, and next year..... I'm sure that they're doing intensive research on more sophisticated semiconductors with new materials, architecture or entirely new types of processors, such as 'quantum computers'.
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Except that we're reaching the limits of 'normal' semiconductor technology.  I think this has been the longest period in a while where there wasn't anything new coming out yesterday, soon, and next year..... I'm sure that they're doing intensive research on more sophisticated semiconductors with new materials, architecture or entirely new types of processors, such as 'quantum computers'.

Hehehe - lookie here.  

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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Habeeb it...

 
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Yea, all those laws of EM-Physics, The QC works on an entirely different level, though, eliminating conventional transistors completely.  That would be insanely faster.