[nubbles526]

If you were paying attention, they DIDN'T build 80+ Saths. That was a different fleet. The Lucy Fleet was cut off and very much isolated. A tiny taskforce that got lost. A bird. A bird who never learned to fly.

Geez, only a scouting party nearly destroyed the whole of GTVA. Damn, we are real weak...

[Stormkeeper]

If you were paying attention, they DIDN'T build 80+ Saths. That was a different fleet. The Lucy Fleet was cut off and very much isolated. A tiny taskforce that got lost. A bird. A bird who never learned to fly.

Geez, only a scouting party nearly destroyed the whole of GTVA. Damn, we are real weak...

Nope. Command just sucks.

[nubbles526]

You couldn't really blame him, we didn't have the technology. But it is shocking that it was only a scouting party. I hope the Sathis are not just another scouting party.

[Stormkeeper]

You couldn't really blame him, we didn't have the technology. But it is shocking that it was only a scouting party. I hope the Sathis are not just another scouting party.

No way a scouting party would blow up a star and subspace immediately.

[TrashMan]

They went home to make a report....

[Gamma_Draconis]

Well, maybe the second Shivan fleet was just an investigation team. They went to check up on the scouting team and then jumped back to call in the real fleet.

[Snail]

Well, maybe the second Shivan fleet was just an investigation team. They went to check up on the scouting team and then jumped back to call in the real fleet.

The...

'real fleet'? 

[haloboy100]

Ya, the one with the gargant in it

[Snail]

Well the Gargant's not all that great, you know. It only has ONE forward weapon. I think it needs to be returreted to have beams on the frontal spikes.

[Hades]

It still kicks ass. Just send a destroyer with Mesons in it at the Gargant.

[Snail]

The Gargant's armor is unbelievable. The only way it's actually possible for the Gargant to have that much shielding is if it has Quantum Crystalline Armor or it somehow absorbs the impact of all the kinetic energy from missiles and the plasma from primary weapons or some **** like that. It's impossible for the Gargant to be that way.

[AlphaOne]

The shivans did not have beam weaponry they had flux laser cannon or something like that. It was the speed with which those cannons fired that made them look like a beam weapon but it was not a beam weapon. This is cannon! I remebered it from the ref. bible.

[Snail]

Well that doesn't do anything to my theory. The Lucifer fleet could be at a different technological level than the Sathanas fleet.

My theory kicks ass.

[AlphaOne]

Your thory may be true and i tend to agree with you to some extent but remember that the Collie was designed to take on multiple Lucifer class SD and win with ease. This makes me think that beams would of sliced through the Lucifer shields like a hot knife through butter.

[Snail]

Both my theories kick ass. (my Shivan one and my shield one)

Who likes my theory?

Any points against it?

[ZmaN]

Your thory may be true and i tend to agree with you to some extent but remember that the Collie was designed to take on multiple Lucifer class SD and win with ease. This makes me think that beams would of sliced through the Lucifer shields like a hot knife through butter.

actually i think they would.  isnt that why they decided not to user shielding on capital ships once the FS2 era came around?

[Vasudan Commander]

Well from my understanding, if the Derelict campaign history is adopted into 'official' FS2 HLP 'history', then it means that all those Sathanas' weren't built, but BORN. 


And if that intertwines with Infero, it would mean that the 'Gargant' is their mothership 

After all it did receive the classification 'SM Gargant'. (Shivan Mothership).
I reckon is probably the most probable theory. It would be much quicker for shivans to some how have some giant , living, breathing ship giving 'birth' to these warships, then using materials to construct them. Given the arachnid-like appearance of the ships, i think my theory is at least plausable.

[Snail]

Well from my understanding, if the Derelict campaign history is adopted into 'official' FS2 HLP 'history', then it means that all those Sathanas' weren't built, but BORN. 

Derelict =! Canon

After all it did receive the classification 'SM Gargant'. (Shivan Mothership).
I reckon is probably the most probable theory. It would be much quicker for shivans to some how have some giant , living, breathing ship giving 'birth' to these warships, then using materials to construct them. Given the arachnid-like appearance of the ships, i think my theory is at least plausable.

It's SH Gargant, for Shivan Hive.

It's possible, but unlikely IMO. The Terrans captured the Taranis, Dragon and a wing of Maras (most likely more), and they were able to easily reverse engineer them, so it's unlikely they were 'alive.'

[haloboy100]

After all it did receive the classification 'SM Gargant'. (Shivan Mothership).
I reckon is probably the most probable theory. It would be much quicker for shivans to some how have some giant , living, breathing ship giving 'birth' to these warships, then using materials to construct them. Given the arachnid-like appearance of the ships, i think my theory is at least plausable.

It's SH Gargant, for Shivan Hive.

It's possible, but unlikely IMO. The Terrans captured the Taranis, Dragon and a wing of Maras (most likely more), and they were able to easily reverse engineer them, so it's unlikely they were 'alive.'

They didn't reverse engineer the taranis, remember? tombaugh station was destroyed before they could do much work on it.

[Snail]

And the Mara and Dragon?