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Offline Hades

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Nice.......I agree.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Shivans are stupid. Why didn't they send a Sathy to blow up earth? No one could fight the Sathy at that time. It think it would take the entire GTVA just to blow this up. Then the Shivans would sned another one. Same story. Gradually, there would be no fleet to defend the home systems, so shivans just go in and boom. If we had 80+ juggernauts, we would do the same to them. Silly Shivans.

It's obvious: they weren't available.

Either that, or perhaps... well, perhaps a Sathanas is far too valuable to waste on an invasion. Perhaps the first Sathanas we destroyed was simply the first to arrive. It arrived first, taking advantage of its massive firepower to swat away the Tatenen, which had been threatening defenceless (hah!) Shivan gas miners. When GTVA warships showed up and attempted to destroy it, the Sathanas again capitalised on its advantage and destroyed them, making its way to Capella. When confronted by the Colossus, it had no choice but to fight, perhaps thinking that the Colossus had similar abilities. However, it was destroyed, thanks to Alpha 1. The rest of the Sathanas fleet arrived shortly after one another, not realising how close the Colossus was to defeat or that it was the only one the GTVA had.


Perhaps, the Shivan supernova device was experimental. The Sathanas fleet had never been required to destroy a star before, and the energy caused some of the juggernauts to malfunction, resulting in the death of many Shivans aboard the juggernauts. The other ships, perhaps, had never intended to survive the supernova, only buying time for their comrades.



That, or the supernova was an unintended side-effect. Maybe the intent was to focus the star's energy in such a way as to create a huge subspace node, but never to destroy it. Some of the Shivans realised what was going on and managed to warp in time, but others were either drained by the device's energy requirements, or their warships were too far from the newly-created node to jump.
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
If you read MY theory, it says that the Lucy fleet is cut-off from the Sath fleet.

 
Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
I still don't get why the only ship with beam cannons in FS1 was the Lucifer, not even the Demon had them. But in FS2 ALL shivan ships had them.

What gives?

 

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
I have been thinking about that too.I mean come on they have been around for thousands of years.Im guessing :v: didnt care about that loophole.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline Snail

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
My theory also answers this question.

The Sathanas fleet had been separated from the FS1 fleet, and hence had developed differently. Their ships developed in the FS2 style (spikey w/ beams) while the older FS1 fleet developed in the FS1 style. They still kept some old ships like the Cain and Lilith so those ship classes were shared between the two fleets.

 
Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
i think that like any other species the shivans were not perfect at the time of FS1 so they were also advancing in technology, and the lucifer was the first prototype ship to have beam cannons, and also fully shielded for the kicker.

I'm actually very surprised all the shivan capital ships don't have shields if the Lucifer did.  Despite the unbalancing game play it would cause.
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
but the ancients were destroyed by shivan beam fire IIRC...so the Lucy couldn't be a prototype....think the cover of FS2 sez something about a "scouting fleet"
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Offline Snail

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
but the ancients were destroyed by shivan beam fire IIRC...

huh?

 

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
"scouting fleet"

Thats what i said. :mad2: its on last page.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
but the ancients were destroyed by shivan beam fire IIRC...

huh?

When you rescue those vasudan scientists in FS1 they say that "it's evident that the ruins were destroyed by shivan weapons"

And I doubt shivan turret lasers are good for orbital bombardment...
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
that still doesn't explain how the Lucifer was the only ship to possess beam weapons in FS1
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
but the ancients were destroyed by shivan beam fire IIRC...

huh?

When you rescue those vasudan scientists in FS1 they say that "it's evident that the ruins were destroyed by shivan weapons"

And I doubt shivan turret lasers are good for orbital bombardment...

The lazer would not do much and also they would hit the planet after five years. :lol:
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline Snail

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
that still doesn't explain how the Lucifer was the only ship to possess beam weapons in FS1

My theory explains it:

As the only hive in contact with the FS1 Shivans, it needed the extra protection (Shield Systems) and had the most advanced weaponry for defense.

 
Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
They can build 80+ saths in little over 30 years but can only sheild one destroyer?
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
:D

If you were paying attention, they DIDN'T build 80+ Saths. That was a different fleet. The Lucy Fleet was cut off and very much isolated. A tiny taskforce that got lost. A bird. A bird who never learned to fly.

 
Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
thats cannon info?
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
no.

it's MY THEORY.

idiot. :P

 
Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
idiot. :P

#3.

Well you treat it like it was canon...
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
It's a theory.