[Snail]

Or more...hard to tell from that ani how many died...

More or less. Quite a few however, I'd say.

It looks pretty obvious to me that the Shivans did not nuke Capella to do damage. They most likely nuked it to either intimidate the GTVA (likely, but not that much so) or for some other strange purpose (more likely).

[Kazan]

maybe to cut us of from their space so they don't have to be annoyed by us?

[Snail]

Didn't we do that? (Bastion, Neried)

[karajorma]

Didn't we do that? (Bastion, Neried)

The Shivans knew we had studied the Knossos and could probably reopen the nodes. Command knew that sealing the nodes was at best a temporary measure but they hoped to hold the Shivans as long as it would take them to build a Knossos in Capella.

[AlphaOne]

More likely they tried to seal off the GTVA for some other reason. Since even if lets say they got scared when they saw the Colossus and believe some 80 thers were waiting for them they sure ass hell would not back down from a fight. More likeli they sealed off the GTVA for a short time in order to somehow, in a twisted sort of way, protect the terrans and vasudans. From what? I

t's anyones guess.

But since the shivans are called the destroyers and preservers perhaps there is some otehr race out there who are called just the destroyers period. Maybe it was they way of asuring that life caries on in this corner of the galaxy. And lets face it since we do not know as much about subspace nodes like the shivans it could be that the GTVA wont come across the shivans again for decades.

By the time the GTVA emerges from its artificial shel so to speack it will be a lot more powerfull and i mean a lot! not even the mighty GTVA in its glory years would hold a candle compared to what the future promises.

I mean think about it this way...they are sure to build some sort of knossos to open up the node to SOL which we all know was the core of the terran war machine. with added raw materials and new economy the future looks bright.

[Gamma_Draconis]

What happens if another Neo-Terran Front emerges? I mean, the people from Sol might be prejudice against the Vasudans and that might lead to another renegade Terran faction. Or maybe the people from Sol won't accept the GTVA as its government but instead, invades GTVA space in an attempt to bring back the old GTA.

[Hades]

What happens if another Neo-Terran Front emerges? I mean, the people from Sol might be prejudice against the Vasudans and that might lead to another renegade Terran faction. Or maybe the people from Sol won't accept the GTVA as its government but instead, invades GTVA space in an attempt to bring back the old GTA.

Yes its called Inferno.

[TrashMan]

What happens if another Neo-Terran Front emerges? I mean, the people from Sol might be prejudice against the Vasudans and that might lead to another renegade Terran faction. Or maybe the people from Sol won't accept the GTVA as its government but instead, invades GTVA space in an attempt to bring back the old GTA.

which is a bull**** theory IMHO..

"We're sealed off from the rest of the glorious empire! After 40 yaers our bretheren have repaired the node! (that acomplishment has to to make a impact) Let's declare war on them..Yeeee!"

Earth is a ecomical and industrial powerhouse - no doubt about it. No colony can ever be as develped as the homeworld (that why any mars/venus/any sol colony rebbelion against Earth souds like crap. It's like some babana republic declaring war against the US with nothinsg stopping the US from pulverizing it)
BUT - a dozen of colonies + vasudans would overwhelm Earth alone. Not to say that it wouldn't put up a good fight, but such prospect is doomed to faliure, so why would anyone indorse it? Why would people from Earth want war?

[haloboy100]

prey the woo doesn't have your arse on a plate after this thread is finished

[Turey]

Earth is a ecomical and industrial powerhouse - no doubt about it. No colony can ever be as develped as the homeworld.

Well, unless some catastrophe happened, like pieces of the Lucifer hitting Earth and destroying most of its manufacturing capabilities.

[haloboy100]

they could of destroyed the peices with their warships, maybe. But the chances of the debris hitting earth, let alone causing that much damage is very, very, low - unless the sol --> delta serpentis node is relatively close to earth, but even then it seems a little unlikely.

[diceman111]

Look the shivans came to capella looking for Burger King but when they found out that they where out of onion rings they got pissed and blew up the whole Sun

"Bevare of shivans they are cranky when they are hungry" - Old saying from the nebula


/Dice

[Freespace Damo]

Shivan Fleet - I'd like 750,000 onion rings please!

Checkout chick - I'm sorry sir we don't have that many.

Shivan Fleet - WHAT?! thats it I'm causing a supernova.

[Vasudan Commander]

Didn't we do that? (Bastion, Neried)

The Shivans knew we had studied the Knossos and could probably reopen the nodes. Command knew that sealing the nodes was at best a temporary measure but they hoped to hold the Shivans as long as it would take them to build a Knossos in Capella.

No they didnt. When Dr Hargrove was studying the Knossos, Gamma Draconis was secure at that time and there was no way the shivan presence. All they knew is that we had secured the Gamma Draconis side of the Knossos portal. Ofcourse they might've assumed we'd study it anyway, just as we studied Altair and defeated the Lucifer.

My theory is that they need nebulae to survive, so they go around with this Sathanas fleet, blowing up star systems to create nebulas.

[Snail]

More likely they tried to seal off the GTVA for some other reason. Since even if lets say they got scared when they saw the Colossus and believe some 80 thers were waiting for them they sure ass hell would not back down from a fight. More likeli they sealed off the GTVA for a short time in order to somehow, in a twisted sort of way, protect the terrans and vasudans.

Thing is, they didn'tcut us off. They nuked the star. The nodes are still there, we can still enter Capella (well actually we can't for the next few centuries since it's way too hot there). We were the ones who nuked the nodes, not the Shivans.

What happens if another Neo-Terran Front emerges? I mean, the people from Sol might be prejudice against the Vasudans and that might lead to another renegade Terran faction. Or maybe the people from Sol won't accept the GTVA as its government but instead, invades GTVA space in an attempt to bring back the old GTA.

which is a bull**** theory IMHO..

Okay, let's put it this way. You've fought a forty year war against yourself with no outside communication. Thousands of people have died in the Sol civil war. The GTVA come prancing in all happy and wonderful and then you make peace with them. 10,000 lives go down the drain for no reason whatsoever. Thing is, would you sacrifice forty years of war and bloodshed to make peace with a foreign government very unfamiliar to you? It depends, the Sol people may or may not. It could go either way.

[Vasudan Commander]

Okay, let's put it this way. You've fought a forty year war against yourself with no outside communication. Thousands of people have died in the Sol civil war. The GTVA come prancing in all happy and wonderful and then you make peace with them. 10,000 lives go down the drain for no reason whatsoever. Thing is, would you sacrifice forty years of war and bloodshed to make peace with a foreign government very unfamiliar to you? It depends, the Sol people may or may not. It could go either way.

If it were up to me, yes, i'd make peace with a foreign government that came offering peace, if they agreed to help resolve the civil war.

[Hades]

Well VC that would be you.Other People thought that the GTVA would take over the Planet.They also must have wanted to take over GTVA too.

[Snail]

If it were up to me, yes, i'd make peace with a foreign government that came offering peace, if they agreed to help resolve the civil war.

That's another point I hadn't thought about. Who would the GTVA side with if the civil war was still raging?

[TrashMan]

Well VC that would be you.Other People thought that the GTVA would take over the Planet.They also must have wanted to take over GTVA too.

Which is suicidal.. the GTVA is a force of combined terrans and vasudans with both their respective technologies combined. Also if faced the second gereration of shivans, leared from them (captured Maras, scahns of Sathanas) and leared how to stablise jump nodes.

The firewpower & fleet numbers would be in the favor of the GTVA. Aside from that Sol WAS part of the Alliance before the node collapsed, so why wouldn't they want to join with their brothers? It's no like it's a comletely different type of regime and ideology in hte GTVA and Sol...

[Hades]

SOL Has the Icaras.The SOL might have forgotten about the GTVA or thought they were wiped out.Besides In INFA Sol was Dumb enough to Attack GTVA.