Also as for other species an idea came into mi head what if they do not use beams to battle the shivans ! What if they used something else something that would attack the very stuff the shivan warships are made of. Since it seem that the shivan warships have some sort of organic tech to them.
The Shivans aren't stupid, remember that. Just because they haven't evolved their ships doesn't mean they won't. Besides, I DO NOT think that Shivan ships are organic AT ALL. The FS2 ships look a bit organic, but FS1 Shivans... Manticore? Scorpion? Alive? Eh?
Such a species would also have to survive several shivan wars !
Really? Technological superiority is a good weapon, but the Shivans have been roaming the universe for MORE THAN 8,000 years. They will not be outclassed by a race that has been spacefaring for less than a century.
And for now the only entity that has survived 2 shivan wars has been the GTVA.
Survived, yes. Won? No.
I think it's safe to say the GTA/PVN
lost the Great War. One homeworld destroyed, another one cut off. Yes, we killed the Lucifer and the other Shivan ships, but that's nothing compared to the loss of an entire homeworld and so much of their fleets.
The second, I do not think the Shivans did much. If the Saths had decided to try and enter Vega or Epsilon Pegasi, the GTVA blockade would have done zilch. The Shivans only sent in cruisers and corvettes, and maybe a few destroyers, but not their Saths. Their Saths seemed as if they didn't give a damn about the GTVA battle, and only committed if they really needed to (Colossus). The Shivans didn't seem intent on invasion the second time round. THe GTVA survived, they did not win.
In addition, the GTVA is the only people who have survived these two wars
that we know of. There could be quite a few other pockets of Shivan resistance that the GTVA does not know of. Considering the odds, I say there would be. They would inevitably be crushed, however.