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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
The subsytems were quite weak and we going off topic...
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um...ya...so how 'bout dem shivans?
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Probably, they blew up Capella to bridge the gap between this galaxy and theirs, so they can over come the solar wind stuff....
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or maybe the shivans had so many juggernauts they wanted to blow 'em all up to impress their god
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
[BenderVoice]They Blew up Capella..... .....TO ACCESS THE MAIN FLEET!!!!MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA[BenderVoice/] :lol:
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[BenderVoice]They Blew up Capella..... .....TO ACCESS THE MAIN FLEET!!!!MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA[BenderVoice/] :lol:

oh really
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Well I think it's plausible. That's basically my own theory. They blew up Capella to 'reunite' with another large fleet. Motive can vary. To kill GTVA, to kill another species, or just a family reunion.

 

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Whatever the motive it must have been a extreemly important one if they were willing to sacrifice that many jugs...unless it was a fluke and they weren't suppose to lose that many (or any for that matter).

But then again, losing a destroyer and 500 fighters looks terrible to us, but the shivans kept loosing fighters/bomber like crazy during both wars like it was nothing. Maby a several jugs are also nothing for them...or at least they REGARD it as nothing...
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Yeah, I agree with Trash. Nova'ing Capella was certainly not something to be used to attack the GTVA. There was definitely something more important than just killing the GTVA.

 

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If the juggernaughts were expendable, i can't imagine what happens if the Shivans decide that they really wanna pwn the GTVA.
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
I don't think they care about the GTVA.

  

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Umm the range of a LRBG is about 10k or 10.5 k if i.m not wrong! How is that anywhere neas the 6 or 7 k max range for the shivan beams??
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Umm the range of a LRBG is about 10k or 10.5 k if i.m not wrong! How is that anywhere neas the 6 or 7 k max range for the shivan beams??

Uh... What are you talking about?
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
BFRed:
Range     7400 m

LRBGren:
Range     8000 m


0wned.

 

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
600 meters...given that the Sath moves at 24m/s that gives a GTVA ship with a LRBGreen 25 seconds of free shooting...
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what the hell I alwais asumed that the diference in range between the GTVA beams and the shivan beams at least when it comes to the Long range beams was at least 2k. Man wa i wrong. Hell if that is the case then the GTVA really need to get some more range from its beams.

Also as for other species an idea came into mi head what if they do not use beams to battle the shivans ! What if they used something else something that would attack the very stuff the shivan warships are made of. Since it seem that the shivan warships have some sort of organic tech to them. Something that would resemble a beam yet it would not be a beam cannon as the GTVa ones but rather some sort of byo-acid-thingy-weapon or something like that used to inflict serious damage especialy to the shivans?

It is not all that outrageous since well nobody really though about designing a weapon specificly for the shivans. However such specialyzed weaponry would prove to be somewhat less efective against other types of armour or other civ. altoghether but it would still work i guess.

Such a species would also have to survive several shivan wars ! And for now the only entity that has survived 2 shivan wars has been the GTVA.
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Also as for other species an idea came into mi head what if they do not use beams to battle the shivans ! What if they used something else something that would attack the very stuff the shivan warships are made of. Since it seem that the shivan warships have some sort of organic tech to them.

The Shivans aren't stupid, remember that. Just because they haven't evolved their ships doesn't mean they won't. Besides, I DO NOT think that Shivan ships are organic AT ALL. The FS2 ships look a bit organic, but FS1 Shivans... Manticore? Scorpion? Alive? Eh?

Such a species would also have to survive several shivan wars !

Really? Technological superiority is a good weapon, but the Shivans have been roaming the universe for MORE THAN 8,000 years. They will not be outclassed by a race that has been spacefaring for less than a century.

And for now the only entity that has survived 2 shivan wars has been the GTVA.

Survived, yes. Won? No.

I think it's safe to say the GTA/PVN lost the Great War. One homeworld destroyed, another one cut off. Yes, we killed the Lucifer and the other Shivan ships, but that's nothing compared to the loss of an entire homeworld and so much of their fleets.

The second, I do not think the Shivans did much. If the Saths had decided to try and enter Vega or Epsilon Pegasi, the GTVA blockade would have done zilch. The Shivans only sent in cruisers and corvettes, and maybe a few destroyers, but not their Saths. Their Saths seemed as if they didn't give a damn about the GTVA battle, and only committed if they really needed to (Colossus). The Shivans didn't seem intent on invasion the second time round. THe GTVA survived, they did not win.

In addition, the GTVA is the only people who have survived these two wars that we know of. There could be quite a few other pockets of Shivan resistance that the GTVA does not know of. Considering the odds, I say there would be. They would inevitably be crushed, however.

 

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I still think that 24s won't really help if your ship is front of a fully armed Sathanas.
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That may be so but 24 s is still enough time to get off at leas 1 round of fire from all the beams on a warship! GTVA warship that is since with theyr ridiculous low eracharge rate..they wont get to hit it more then once before the Sath gets into weapons range. Now if we are talking about a shivan destroyer then that is another thing since with one salvo from all the beams you can really do some serious damage.
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Technicly, 25 seconds gives just barely enough time for 2 salvos..and hte GTVA ship should warp out then... However to be on the side of caution, fire one salvo and warp out far away to re-charge...warp in another ship behind the Sath...repeat process
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