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Trying to escape the impending Big Rip by escaping to another dimension / universe.   :eek2: :nervous:
I'm trying not to think about such things as "The Big Bang" and/or "The Big Rip"...........

It just gets me depressed.
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...said the Harbinger of DOOM!!!!!!!!!

 

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lol
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Now i've gotten depressed...why did you have to bring the big rip thingy out.....???


Wait.....I wont live that long.......oh well.....nothing for me to worry about then eh....!
Die shivan die!!
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Well, apparently bigger ship take longer to re-charge their jump drives.. the bigger the subspace "hole" your'e opning the bigger the energy requirements. A Sath is a lot bigger than a Orion.

Its got a lot more volume but the subspace hole wouldn't need to be that much bigger.  Its size means its bound to have bigger reactors, and Shivan subspace technology is clearly better than  Terran subspace tech.

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And tactical mini-jumps are not possible.
The Sath can't jump right behind an Orion in one jump. He first needs to jump to some point B, re-charge it's jump drives and then jump back to point B +10000m to the left.

We don't know, there's never been a situation in FS where it would be practical as far as I can remember.
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
TrashMan, intrasystem jumps can take you to anywhere within the system, so the Sath CAN just jump behind those Orions.

 

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Then again so can the Orions cant they??
Die shivan die!!
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Offline Snail

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Yar, but the Shivans aren't stupid. Besides, so much jumping around and warping and stuff will most likely overload the engines of the Orions, but the Sath has more engines than all of the Orions combined.

 

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1 engine ver 6.Which do you think would win? :p
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
All of the Orions combined have less engines than the Sath. Orions have 1 each, 1 x 5 = 5, but the Sath has 6.

 

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
If one of those BFreds ht an Orion K.O. also. :P The Sathanas could out run them to.
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Actually two hits per Orion. But those BFReds have an insane recharge rate, and on insane they would rip apart the Orions before they even had time to recharge their jump drives.

 

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Well, apparently bigger ship take longer to re-charge their jump drives.. the bigger the subspace "hole" your'e opning the bigger the energy requirements. A Sath is a lot bigger than a Orion.

Its got a lot more volume but the subspace hole wouldn't need to be that much bigger.  Its size means its bound to have bigger reactors, and Shivan subspace technology is clearly better than  Terran subspace tech.

You're assuming the energy requirements scale linearly..what if htey are exponential? That would explain the big gap in time nad power needed for different ships sizes to jump.


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And tactical mini-jumps are not possible.
The Sath can't jump right behind an Orion in one jump. He first needs to jump to some point B, re-charge it's jump drives and then jump back to point B +10000m to the left.

We don't know, there's never been a situation in FS where it would be practical as far as I can remember.

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TrashMan, intrasystem jumps can take you to anywhere within the system, so the Sath CAN just jump behind those Orions.

There has never been a mention of a "tactical" jump or microjump in canon FS, alltough there were many situations where it would come in handy (Collie vs. Sath anyone?). Obviously, there's some minimal jump distance - it's not like you can jump 1m from your current position.
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
All of the Orions combined have less engines than the Sath. Orions have 1 each, 1 x 5 = 5, but the Sath has 6.

A jump drive (SINGULAR) is fitted on every warship.
Engines DO NOT EQUAL jump drives..
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
There has never been a mention of a "tactical" jump or microjump in canon FS, alltough there were many situations where it would come in handy (Collie vs. Sath anyone?). Obviously, there's some minimal jump distance - it's not like you can jump 1m from your current position.

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First, an intrasystem jump can occur between two points in a star system. Most small, space-faring vessels are equipped with motivators capable of these short jumps. The presence of an intense gravitational field is required, prohibiting travel beyond the boundaries of a star system.

Yar?

 

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
A jump drive (SINGULAR) is fitted on every warship.
Engines DO NOT EQUAL jump drives..

True.

 

Offline Kie99

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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
Well, apparently bigger ship take longer to re-charge their jump drives.. the bigger the subspace "hole" your'e opning the bigger the energy requirements. A Sath is a lot bigger than a Orion.

Its got a lot more volume but the subspace hole wouldn't need to be that much bigger.  Its size means its bound to have bigger reactors, and Shivan subspace technology is clearly better than  Terran subspace tech.

You're assuming the energy requirements scale linearly..what if htey are exponential? That would explain the big gap in time nad power needed for different ships sizes to jump.

The Sathanas is exponentially bigger than the Orion in terms of volume.


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And tactical mini-jumps are not possible.
The Sath can't jump right behind an Orion in one jump. He first needs to jump to some point B, re-charge it's jump drives and then jump back to point B +10000m to the left.

We don't know, there's never been a situation in FS where it would be practical as far as I can remember.

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TrashMan, intrasystem jumps can take you to anywhere within the system, so the Sath CAN just jump behind those Orions.

There has never been a mention of a "tactical" jump or microjump in canon FS, alltough there were many situations where it would come in handy (Collie vs. Sath anyone?). Obviously, there's some minimal jump distance - it's not like you can jump 1m from your current position.

In High Noon it would not have been practical for the Colossus to nano jump, because the Sathanas would have done the same thing as soon as the Colossus emerged, which would put the Colossus at a tactical disadvantage.
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Re: What the Shivans were doing at Capella... :o
I don't think that ships need to turn around in subspace. You just need to travel in ONE STRAIGHT line.

 

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The Sathanas is exponentially bigger than the Orion in terms of volume.

no..just no...


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In High Noon it would not have been practical for the Colossus to nano jump, because the Sathanas would have done the same thing as soon as the Colossus emerged, which would put the Colossus at a tactical disadvantage.

Wrong. The sath just jumped in, and in a perfect position to shoot at the Collie to boot, so it would have to charge up it's drives to jump again. If anything it is a PERFECT situation to nano-jump behind it and give it a broadside


That said, tactical nano-jumps have NEVER been mentioned or used and are theferefore NOT CANON. Why didn't the Psamtik nano-jump the 8000 meters? Why don't the ship nano-jump closer to the node when they're running away insted of moving slowly at the node? Why didn't the Bastion nano-jump?

It's quite clear that jumping is used for BIG distances only (and by big I mean something like a distance between 2 planets)
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