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Offline IPAndrews

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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
eagles629 = troll.
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
Most of the worlds FS2 community is probably here already. The main selling point of a sequel is to continue the story of its predecessors. The very reason sequels exist is to continue the story. If HLP did do FS3, what would be the point, seeing as how we already KNOW what the story will be? Another thing; we'd spend most of our time arguing over the story, mainly because there are probably half a dozen different views on how FS3 is supposed to be like. Furthermore, if we did do our own FS3, no one would accept it as canon; because canon is defined in this case as the things clearly stated by [V]. And there is a reason Interplay is holding on to FS's rights. It is worth a lot to the right ppl, plus Interplay knows very well that the FS2 community is small but growing. By holding the rights to FS2, they're probably hoping to do something using FS's name to save their company; although at this point, Interplay has few people at its disposal.

Another point; the license agreement states that the we can use FS2 to create our own mods and stuff, but clearly, it states not for profit. Which means we can't form a company and comercialise BtRL, WC, and all our stand alone WIPs hosted on HLP. It's a legal infringement, and while it may not bring [V] down on us, you can bet that Interplay will be down on us faster then a hungry wolf on a fat chicken.

Buying the rights from a now desperate company will not be easy; the reason no company is making a move now is that Interplay is up against the wall, with nothing left but their supposed Fallout MMO and the FS name. If Interplay is declared bankrupt, hopefully, THQ will be the first to move in and pick up the name. [V] can't sue Interplay because in letting Interplay publish FS, they're giving Interplay majority rights to FS. If they sued, and if they won, they might not get full rights.

Finally. Actually developing a game is not something that comes easily. We'd need a publisher; we'd need a svn of some sort. We'd need to have regular meetings, decide on what to cut, what not to cut. We'd also need money; which we wouldn't be able to get from our FS2 based games. We'd need investors. The problem is that many of the HLPers have RLs to live, and no investor is going to back a rookie company since they'd need to buy the rights off a dying company, and then financing the development of a sequel to a game which sold badly. Granted, Interplay's bad publicity was a major factor in that, but the fact remains that few investors will back a rookie company, even if we have sterling records in modding and polishing up FS.
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
Oh, BTW,

If it ain't :v: it ain't FS3.

  

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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
Unless when we create the company we BUY THE RIGHTS AS THE GUY SUGGESTED!!!!!! :mad: F***ING LISTEN

I'll gladly start up a company, if you hand me over the cash to buy the FreeSpace IP.
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
I'll gladly start up a company, if you hand me over the cash to buy the FreeSpace IP.

Which is more than we can all put in.

 
Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
Oh, BTW,

If it ain't :v: it ain't FS3.

^what he said.

Then again, :v: 's dead, so a proper statement to that would be,

"It'll never be :v: , so it'll never be FS3."

 

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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
:v:'s not dead, they just made Saint's Row recently... But truth be told their games haven't been all to original since Red Faction...

 
Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
This thread was meant to tell the community that it is a possibility for  :v: to sue for the full rights for FS, just as Bethesda did for Fallout, and i can't see how this is obselete as Bethesda just announced their take over of the franchise less than 3 months ago.
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
The difference is that Bethesda is a publisher as well as developer, while [V] is a developer, not publisher.
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
On the money issue i can understand how someone might be hesitant to back this as a venture, but with a few investors we could take the same course as Bethesda, contracting out making games they don't own to make money and whe enough was made we could then do a game the way we want ie. Bethesda did two Pirates of the Carribean games, SW KOTOR 1+2, and many others until they had the money and rep to do Fallout the way they wanted.
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
Get this in your head eagles. Bethesda is a PUBLISHER. Its what they DO. The IPs for any game produced under contract to them belongs to them. They don't own the studio, but they own the GAME. They didn't do all that just to get Fallout. Fallout was just an opportunity that they took. And the PoC games were a flop, imo. And like they said, if it isn't :v: that did it, it ain't FS3.
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
It's obsolete because

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

not in the conceivable future anyway.

 
Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
i just made this thread to tell everyone about the possibility that had come up, but if everyone is just going to say no no it's never going to happen then why the hell are we still talking about it???

Moderators please lock this
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
We're still talking about it because you're still nagging us.

Sorry if this community is coming off sounding critical, but it's just the truth. Everything you've said has already been repeatedly said hundreds of times and it's nothing new. It gets boring.

But please stick around and contribute to the community, rather than posting this thread and then disappearing into obscurity. Just because it came off to a bumpy start doesn't mean the whole journey's going to be the same.

 
Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
ever wonder why :v: is making other games like saint's row? because freespace 3 is never going to happen. If it was, they would of made it by now. Let's put this to rest and lock 'er up now...
Fun while it lasted.

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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
I still hope for another sequel to Freespace. Sure the SCP is great in all and the mods as well, but I still want another game done by Volition.

 
Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
then go play saints' row :P
Fun while it lasted.

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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
How can this have been said before when it happen in the last few months?? only recently did bethesda win it's suit and kill Interplay's Fallout MMO!!!
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Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
then go play saints' row :P

I meant Freespace game.

 
Re: dont lock there is possibility for alot more freespace games
this thread is pointless. just another FS3 thread.  :doubt: