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Offline Snail

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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
Still, it costs 2 billion to make a bomber today, how is it only 2 billion for a 2 km behemoth?

 

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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
The $ has gone up a LOT  in the future? Like it was before the big economic crisis in the 50-ies, only even better ;)
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
Still, it costs 2 billion to make a bomber today, how is it only 2 billion for a 2 km behemoth?

I think a ursas would cost maybe twice as much as a present-day space shuttle, if you ask me.
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
Still, it costs 2 billion to make a bomber today, how is it only 2 billion for a 2 km behemoth?

I think a ursas would cost maybe twice as much as a present-day space shuttle, if you ask me.

I dont think so. i mean, the Ursa isnt really THAT much better than other bombers.  Thus, the Ursa cant be more than 2x the price of, say, a Zeus. The GTA/ GTVA would never spend so much on a baseline bomber...

Should this topic be renamed to like "The Orion is way too cheap" or something? The Serapis stuff is misleading the where this conversation has gone.
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
I just love how people extrapolate values from today's "wet" navy and "air" force 300 years into the future at space force...
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
Nothin can cost that much :blah:

 

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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
That was when the Ursa was first created...I'm sure 32 years later the prices would be a bit lower.
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
I just love how people extrapolate values from today's "wet" navy and "air" force 300 years into the future at space force...

Well, the salary of navymen/spacemen is probably going to be the same relatively compared to the rest of the workforce. As in, average salary in the US is $40,000 and Navy pays $70,000.
its a relative measure.
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
How do you know that the space force's salary isn't going to be superior to what's paid today in the navy (inflation aside)? Or inferior? It's still a baseless extrapolation.
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
If it was THAT superior to everyone elses salary, everyone would go in the GTVA navy.

We can safely assume that the salary is high..military allways gets a loot of moolah ;7

Either in the FS2 universe a 100$ is worht a LOT more than today (let's say it's like 100-1000 times more) or Orions are dirt cheap :lol:
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
Alright, goober. Break of this page from the main thread.
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
Alright, goober. Break of this page from the main thread.

And the second page. And part of the 1st page.
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How do you know that the space force's salary isn't going to be superior to what's paid today in the navy (inflation aside)? Or inferior? It's still a baseless extrapolation.

The GTVA employs A LOT OF PEOPLE.
Either they are drafted (likely during T&V and Great War.) or they are paid. I am sure the GTVA cant invest so much money in 3000 crewmen in a destroyer that can be destroyed by a few bombers...
Then again. This IS command we are talking about...
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
If it was THAT superior to everyone elses salary, everyone would go in the GTVA navy.

It may be a selective system, as in only a select few (well... "few" enough to crew the whole fleet I guess) are chosen. Much like air force pilots.

The GTVA is not obliged to employ everyone that wants to be in the army.
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
Damn, it's hard to split a topic when people are still posting in it :nervous:

 

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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
The GTVA employs A LOT OF PEOPLE.

Oh really?

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Either they are drafted (likely during T&V and Great War.) or they are paid. I am sure the GTVA cant invest so much money in 3000 crewmen in a destroyer that can be destroyed by a few bombers...

Try 10000 in a destroyer. And by that logic, the whole fleet would be nothing but a single argos transport because why bother building fighters/bombers/capital ships when they can be taken by capital ships/fighters/bombers respectively?

Also, people seem to forget that the GTVA consists of more than a single planet.
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Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
In my theory, it would probably cost the same as buying an expensive car as it would to build a space fighter, given that the national-state of the world became a global-state, and put aside petty squabbling and humanity united to turn its eyes towards the stars.

Think about it. How much do you suppose the world, as a w(hole), spends on military a year? all that metal, logistics, and funds put to waste making war against fellow man, when it could be put into science.

If there was no war, we'd have the moon settled in 5 years, and mars settled in 15.

 
Re: Does teh Serapis have too much recoil?
Damn, it's hard to split a topic when people are still posting in it :nervous:

No need anymore.
I renamed the topic.
Now, its
"Why a destroyer when 100 Ursas can take out a Sathanas?"
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Re: Why a destroyer when 100 Ursas can take out a Sathanas?
wow, didnt know you could do that  :wtf:

 

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Re: Why a destroyer when 100 Ursas can take out a Sathanas?
Heh, well I'm not remerging them tonight, it was hard enough splitting the bugger. I'll fix it up after the dentist tomorrow :)

 

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Re: Why a destroyer when 100 Ursas can take out a Sathanas?
How do you even know they are paid in dolaras and not Euros or even salt for that matter??? You have no idea what the curency is ! Also as far as the Orion goes it was said i believe in the tech room that an Orion costs more then the salary of its entire crew for 3 or 4 years. So that is a lot of meney. however that still does not explain the easiness with which GTVA commands sends in destroyers to front line action and against targets they were never ever designed to take on. And of course they get blow away. Also i do not believe fighters and bommbers are that chpea. Remember that asfar as we klnow it is only the shivans that we have seen travel with a full compliment of fighters on beard as far as we know !

Or rather the game left me with the impresion that Neither the Aquitane or the Psamtik have a full cargo of fighters/bommbers.
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