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22.5 posts... Terrifying, truly terrifying. :eek2:

 

Offline akenbosch

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whats the HLP standard? because this is less growth than my postcount got on my first days on SG.

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22.5 posts... Terrifying, truly terrifying. :eek2:

Who? Me? akenbosch? You? ... and what does this have to do with this thread? :wtf:
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akenbosch...

Blah, backontopic.

 

Offline akenbosch

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so, how are we going to recreate the battle of deneb again?

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Mehrpack, please stop adding your name to the end of your posts, it gets annoying

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He can do anything he wants--putting your name at the end of you post isn't annoying.

Anyways--I would actually think the hard part is to repair the hole so that there is no possibility of atmosphere-leakage. True, the heat created by the Lucy would melt most of the metal around the hole, though there's still likely quite a few holes and weak spots. The Legion should be repairable--it wasn't, likely for political reasons. It is likely heavily policed and guarded against vandalism and non-military scavengers. You don't just leave capital ships alone after they're rendered useless--if a US ship sinks, we recover all recoverable wreckage and then destroy the rest, while guarding the wreck.
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Well, it was a guarded monument in my campaign...it's fate in canon FS universe however, is anyones guess...it's till out there tough...we know that much.
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He can do anything he wants--putting your name at the end of you post isn't annoying.

Anyways--I would actually think the hard part is to repair the hole so that there is no possibility of atmosphere-leakage. True, the heat created by the Lucy would melt most of the metal around the hole, though there's still likely quite a few holes and weak spots. The Legion should be repairable--it wasn't, likely for political reasons. It is likely heavily policed and guarded against vandalism and non-military scavengers. You don't just leave capital ships alone after they're rendered useless--if a US ship sinks, we recover all recoverable wreckage and then destroy the rest, while guarding the wreck.

hi,
thanks for your support for my posting style, but back to topic.

i think, thats theres partitions on each sections on each decks, so thats if the structural damage on the decks and section they not warporize to great, then i think its not so a big problem to hold the atmosphere, but yes i think theres some leaks, too.

Well, according to the into ani, the Legion looked as if it's in the same shape as it was when the Lucifer gutted it.
I saw no other big holes on it and small holes are easy to repair in FS2 timeline.

the resoultion wasnt so good but the first look i will agree, buts they got a good putting of normal fire of the shivans.
but i think theres missing some damage-textures  :shaking: maybe.

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Micrometeorites? I think it's safe to assume that the Orions are capable of shrugging them off, since they are quite a commen phenomena in space.

yes, but how often its natural in space thats a other ship warpoize a great hole in the hull  :D.
if a orion in a good state then i see there no problems too, but i think if it take a lot of damage in a battle then can micrometeorites cause really damage.

They both share the same armor in all places ... how many objects would stike that in that hole anyway? How mayn would just pass trough?
And how much more damage can they do in that section to boot?

dont know, it think byself that the chance isnt so high, but i think thats a good hit can make a lot of damage.
we dont know how the inner cunstruction is of a orion.
maybe the sections and decks itsself are so protected, that if a micro- or a minimeteorites make it through the armor, that they will stop or slow them down.
but maybe the constructors only count on the armor and theres no other inner barriers for impacts.
then i think its the chance a lot higher that so an object cause some minor damage in the inner ship.
maybe not on the important systems like life-support ( i think so a important system is first in the central ship and have a own armor) but other system they needed if you want to use the hulk.

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AFAIK, FS warships all have bulkheads, just like submarines.
It would be a very stupid design wihtout them. So it stands to reason that other sections of the ship are in a pretty good shape..
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My question with bulkheads is if they got sealed--it's entirely possible that some were unsealed when the fatal blow was delivered--engineers have to work, don't they? From what I remember in the cutscene, the Legion takes little damage pre-SSL.
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It standard practice to seal all critical bulkheads when entering battle.
Don't you ever watch movies?

The only time bulkheadswould be open is a surprise attack.
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Bulkhead? Open? In space?

 

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Internall..between inner sections...you n00b :lol:
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AFAIK, FS warships all have bulkheads, just like submarines.
It would be a very stupid design wihtout them. So it stands to reason that other sections of the ship are in a pretty good shape..

hi,
command had made some stupid decision in the past ;)  :lol: (sorry can resist :D ).

but i think it too, thats there bulkhead.

to bad thats we doesnt have blueprints of the FS and FS2 ships, i think they are very interesting :).

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ask volition if they have some


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But the guys still work during battle--as evident by some stupid stuff like a certain disabled Hecate :ick:. Let's face it--even when entering "critical battle", you don't expect you hull to look like the inside of a dough nut...
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Eh??? :wtf:

I?m not sure I follow... Are you inplying that guys working on board means bulkheads are open?
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Blah blah blah...

There also was the Hades destroyer in that cutscene, in a very unprobable location. I remember DySkO's comment on the last FS1 cutscene: the Lucifer emerges from subspace near our Homeworld just because of certain game needings... a glorious return to the place where everything started. That's why DySkO said that the Delta Serpentis node could not be near Earth.

For the same reason, I think that we shouldn't waste time in creating theories about the presence of a derelict in the outer orbit of a planet. There simply was no other way to start with FS2...
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I remember DySkO's comment on the last FS1 cutscene: the Lucifer emerges from subspace near our Homeworld just because of certain game needings... a glorious return to the place where everything started. That's why DySkO said that the Delta Serpentis node could not be near Earth.

It's still canon. You can't refute that.

 

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It's still canon. You can't refute that.

I know, but please take in consideration the "cinematographic needings". Just like in a film about Moses, where the part related to the great escape is exaggerated.
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