[colecampbell666]

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070803/against_pride_flag_080803/20070803/
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070806/rally_pride_Truro_080607/20070806/

I'm not saying that it is a waste of time because it is about the gay community, but rather because everyone made a HUGE deal about it. It is the mayor's decision to fly a flag or not, and someone blew the whole thing out of proportion.

EDIT: Fixed the links.

[Ghostavo]

I'm not sure about the technicalities of the whole thing, but him not raising the flag just because of his religious beliefs is wrong. A mayor is supposed to act on behalf of his community, not on his own behalf.

For example:

"There are writings in the book of Romans chapter one, to name a few -- basically I have to go with that conviction, and I know it's not a popular one."

 

[TrashMan]

He has every right not to raise that flag, especially if the WHOLE COUNCIL backied him up.. no contraversy here....carry on

[RazorsKiss]

It was the community that voted him in. 

[colecampbell666]

I'm not sure about the technicalities of the whole thing, but him not raising the flag just because of his religious beliefs is wrong. A mayor is supposed to act on behalf of his community, not on his own behalf.

For example:

"There are writings in the book of Romans chapter one, to name a few -- basically I have to go with that conviction, and I know it's not a popular one."

 

He has every right not to raise that flag, especially if the WHOLE COUNCIL backied him up.. no contraversy here....carry on

It was the community that voted him in. 

[KappaWing]

Doesent change him being a selfish prick.

He should have at least provided a less self-centered and snobbish excuse.

And I thought Canada was supposed to be civilized....
Oh well, theres always Norway.

[Ghostavo]

colecampbell666 it's not the fact that he didn't raise the flag, it's why he didn't that makes the whole thing really disturbing. He could raise the jolly roger for all I care, but if he does so without a reason backed by logic as expected from a secular government, it is wrong.

[Scuddie]

I applaud him for not raising the flag.  That flag is a symbol of the lowest form of life on the face of the planet.  That's right, the idiots.  Idiots are responsible for that disgrace of human decency.  If I were that guy, I'd burn their idiot-flag in public, then urinate on the ashes.  God damn, those people piss me off...  Being openly gay and not being ashamed to admit it is a rare act of courage in our culture, and they deserve to be commended for it.  But these ****wits who take pride in their homosexuality deserve to be castrated by a vulture every single day at noon for all eternity!...  However, the reason for him not raising the flag is not cool.  It's kinda almost half as bad as what the flag represents.

Oh well, I'd better keep ahead of myself before I start spouting hate about stupid people.

[Polpolion]

Residents also condemned the town council's decision. One coffee shop owner worried the flag's rejection would give Truro a bad name.

Well, I'd say that Truro has a bad name now. But personally, it's because of all the complaining, not because of the desicion itself. Haha! Take that, the portion of Truro's voting comunity that dissaproves of the desicion! It's your fault!

But here's a thing:

Do people elect leaders so the leaders can meld their personal views to the societies against his/her will, or do they elect the leader because his/her views are about the same as the society's?

If the first one is true, then why bother having multiple candidates if they all supposedly just choose what the community wants? If the latter is true, then the population isn't allowed to complain because they voted him in!



Come to think of it, would a pure "Democracy" mean everyone elect one supreme leader to have his/her way, or mean everyone vote in every little desicion?

[akenbosch]

I applaud him for not raising the flag.  That flag is a symbol of the lowest form of life on the face of the planet.  That's right, the idiots.  Idiots are responsible for that disgrace of human decency.  If I were that guy, I'd burn their idiot-flag in public, then urinate on the ashes.  God damn, those people piss me off...  Being openly gay and not being ashamed to admit it is a rare act of courage in our culture, and they deserve to be commended for it.  But these ****wits who take pride in their homosexuality deserve to be castrated by a vulture every single day at noon for all eternity!...  However, the reason for him not raising the flag is not cool.  It's kinda almost half as bad as what the flag represents.

Oh well, I'd better keep ahead of myself before I start spouting hate about stupid people.

predegist.

[S-99]

He should have hung the ****ing flag. Truro has extreme balls for what he did. But, despite his views, it's not good at all. It made him seem really bad to everyone he might not get re-elected for mayor (if he's even going to run again). After that it put the gay community where he is on edge about the question of whether or not they are accepted in society. Probably a lot of people there are having some bad feelings towards their city government which pretty much showed that it was biased towards gay people.

Why can't people depend on their government to be secular when the mayor is a theocrat? Get rid of the theocrat. Not everyone in the world is christian just like not everyone in the world is muslim just like not everyone in the world is straight. And the need for a secular government where everyone is different (different religious beliefs and sexual orientations) you need to have a government that can always be depended on to not be discriminatory against it's citizens. Truro can't really be depended on to not be discriminatory against gays. He's probably going to have a tough or short career now as hate towards truro and unassurance of acceptance all from the gay community is escalating.

The thing with religious leaders being in secular government is fine...if you got a level headed person who rather gets advised by their religious doctrine as opposed to ruling by their religious doctrine. Ruling by your religion you will get something that truro did. Getting advised by your religious doctrine is where you know in the bible it says homosexuality is wrong, but you also know that the bible says love your enemies, don't hate anybody (the bible is big on accepting people, not hating people, to turn the other cheek, don't hate your enemies,..blablabla coexisting with others in good ways pretty much). Truro is so not the model christian that anybody should try to aspire to unless you aspire to his level of balls (but in the article with his bs about this conviction **** i don't think he has balls and he's rather a pussy who didn't seem sure on the issue of raising the flag, or not raising it).

[Nuke]

Doesent change him being a selfish prick.

He should have at least provided a less self-centered and snobbish excuse.

And I thought Canada was supposed to be civilized....
Oh well, theres always Norway.

yes, and black metal ist krieg

[Ghostavo]

But here's a thing:

Do people elect leaders so the leaders can meld their personal views to the societies against his/her will, or do they elect the leader because his/her views are about the same as the society's?

If the first one is true, then why bother having multiple candidates if they all supposedly just choose what the community wants? If the latter is true, then the population isn't allowed to complain because they voted him in!



Come to think of it, would a pure "Democracy" mean everyone elect one supreme leader to have his/her way, or mean everyone vote in every little desicion?

But does that mean that once someone is elected they are free to do whatever they please with their new given power?

A pure democracy would be instead of electing someone to represent the people, the people would represent themselves. So I assume that's your second option.

[TrashMan]

I applaud him for not raising the flag.  That flag is a symbol of the lowest form of life on the face of the planet.  That's right, the idiots.  Idiots are responsible for that disgrace of human decency.  If I were that guy, I'd burn their idiot-flag in public, then urinate on the ashes.  God damn, those people piss me off...  Being openly gay and not being ashamed to admit it is a rare act of courage in our culture, and they deserve to be commended for it.  But these ****wits who take pride in their homosexuality deserve to be castrated by a vulture every single day at noon for all eternity!...  However, the reason for him not raising the flag is not cool.  It's kinda almost half as bad as what the flag represents.

Oh well, I'd better keep ahead of myself before I start spouting hate about stupid people.

A somewhat....extreeme view. Formulating a similar missage in a more calm and less agressive tone might have a better effect.
FYI I'm not too fond of gayness either, but hate solves nothing...and law and order and a mesure of civility must be kept. That said, he should have had a bit of a better reason to not raise the flag. Heck, even "disturbing public peace" would do!

Gay people can't help being what they are - they are born that way - so there's no logic in going after them...however the individuals of "questionable moral values and socail behaviour" that frequent those Gay Pride Parades (and represent a part of the gay population) are fair game as far as I'm concerned. Those parades are really deprived of all decency.

[colecampbell666]

A somewhat....extreme view. Formulating a similar message in a more calm and less aggressive tone might have a better effect.
FYI I'm not too fond of gayness either, but hate solves nothing...and law and order and a measure of civility must be kept. That said, he should have had a bit of a better reason to not raise the flag. Heck, even "disturbing public peace" would do!

Gay people can't help being what they are - they are born that way - so there's no logic in going after them...however the individuals of "questionable moral values and social behavior" that frequent those Gay Pride Parades (and represent a part of the gay population) are fair game as far as I'm concerned. Those parades are really deprived of all decency.

He didn't hate, as far as I can tell, or go after them, he just did as the council decided. If he had decided to fly the gay flag, does this not mean that he would have to fly a flag for every minority in the town?

[Snail]

... That flag is a symbol of the lowest form of life on the face of the planet...

Sorry, but I just have to agree with that...

[KappaWing]

I applaud him for not raising the flag.  That flag is a symbol of the lowest form of life on the face of the planet.  That's right, the idiots.  Idiots are responsible for that disgrace of human decency.  If I were that guy, I'd burn their idiot-flag in public, then urinate on the ashes.  God damn, those people piss me off...  Being openly gay and not being ashamed to admit it is a rare act of courage in our culture, and they deserve to be commended for it.  But these ****wits who take pride in their homosexuality deserve to be castrated by a vulture every single day at noon for all eternity!...  However, the reason for him not raising the flag is not cool.  It's kinda almost half as bad as what the flag represents.

Oh well, I'd better keep ahead of myself before I start spouting hate about stupid people.

A somewhat....extreeme view. Formulating a similar missage in a more calm and less agressive tone might have a better effect.

You actually took him seriously?

yes, and black metal ist krieg

IT'S PURE ****ING ARMMAAGGEEDDOONNNNN!!!!! 

[BloodEagle]

Gay people can't help being what they are - they are born that way - so there's no logic in going after them...however the individuals of "questionable moral values and socail behaviour" that frequent those Gay Pride Parades (and represent a part of the gay population) are fair game as far as I'm concerned. Those parades are really deprived of all decency.

So... it's genetic? 

There's a 'gay' gene? 

[TrashMan]

So... it's genetic? 

There's a 'gay' gene? 

Probably... After all, a hormonal reaction to pheromons is controled by the most basic part of the brain...it's like a reflex.
Alltough is it a single gene or a combination?
There were some studies with mice that suggest strongly that it is genetic.. It's not passed on, alltouhg it is possible that some gene combination is more likely to trigger it than others.

[BloodEagle]

By that logic, could it be a genetic defect?  *awaits the storm*