[brandx0]

We will not be including Starfighter beam weapons, though some of their effects will be felt in other ways, just not starfighter mounted.

[Snail]

As in, tractor beams?

[bobross]

And while I do agree that the prequels are canon, did anyone honestly think that was at all close to what the original speculation of the Clone Wars entailed before Episodes II and III came out?  I don't ever remember hearing anything about a droid army.  I thought that the Republic's clone army just went mad and began a revolt.  Never did I think it had anything to do with Darth Sidious, the Sith in general or the origins of Darth Vader.  I just had assumed that happened a few years after.

Sorry for getting OT from the current direction of this discussion (ion cannons/tractor beams), but I'm new to this site and was reading through this entire thread.

I wanted to point out that in at least one book there was a reference to the usage of a droid army in the Clone Wars era.  It has been a while since I've read them, but I believe this came up in one of the old Han Solo trilogy books (the ones in the Corporate sector with the droid Blue Max, not the other ones about Han's childhood and stuff).  If I remember right there is a "pirate" base or something with battle droids that are referred to as being used during the clone wars.

Of course, I don't have my books available to me (in storage) and I'm the guy who swears that he saw a scene in RotJ after the Sarlacc where Han is arguing with Lando about picking up the droids out of the sand (ya, I'm pretty sure I dreamed that at this point).

[brandx0]

I think the scene you're referring to is where Luke jumps on the skiff and says something like "Let's go, and don't forget the droids."  to which Lando just says we're on our way or something.

[bobross]

Yup, that is the scene, but I remember the scene going something like this:

Luke: Let's go, and don't forget the droids
Lando: They're just droids, this thing is going to blow
Han: We're picking them up.  Those droids and I have been through a lot.


Like I said... at this point I'm pretty sure that I just dreamed this.  I only remember "seeing" it once, and in all of the special editions, collectors editions, and special features I've never once seen this scene on film.  It is just so vividly burned into my memory that I keep looking for it lol.

[brandx0]

It never happened...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9P6zmjtm68&feature=related

at 6:38 or so.

[bobross]

LOL I agree.  I just can't help myself from watching every possible version or special I can to maybe find it... either that or I'm just crazy... and I don't want to accept that I'm crazy just yet =p

[brandx0]

Well keep searching then, but it doesn't exist lol.  Trust me, I've watched every version of all the Star Wars movies and it doesn't exist.

[bobross]

Your models are extraordinary... maybe you could make it for me all CGI? 

[brandx0]

I'm not even sure what you're asking... My models are all CGI... that's what 3D models are...

But thank you for the compliment

[aRaven]

maybe he means that he'd like to make sweet sweet love to you

[Colonol Dekker]

Glad that this is a predominantly text based site.

[bobross]

LOL! NO!

Sorry... my earlier reply should have read something more like this:

"Your models are extraordinary... maybe you could make it for me so at least it will exist in CGI?"

[Topgun]

I think he wants to render them.

[Colonol Dekker]

Concurrence.


Surely there exist SW model sites though?

[Nohg]

I wanted to point out that in at least one book there was a reference to the usage of a droid army in the Clone Wars era.  It has been a while since I've read them, but I believe this came up in one of the old Han Solo trilogy books (the ones in the Corporate sector with the droid Blue Max, not the other ones about Han's childhood and stuff).  If I remember right there is a "pirate" base or something with battle droids that are referred to as being used during the clone wars.

"Don't forget the droids"
"We're on our way"

I think.



The Han Solo story you refer to is when he is hunting for Xim the Despot's stash of treasure, and there are some of Xim's battle droids unearthed. They are 100's or 1000's of years old I think.


I have to say, the sense I get in the novels before the prequels is that the Republic/Empire was attacked by a clone army gone mad. And that Darth Vader was mostly flesh except for the hand and breathing stuff. Lucas corrected that handily.....

[brandx0]

I dunno about the Vader comment, Obi Wan does mention that he's more machine than man, as well as his immense strength demonstrated.  I think the point of the hand was to show, after obi wan's comment, that he really is barely human anymore, and that Luke, in looking down at his own hand, realizes that if he doesn't let go of his anger he'll wind up like Vader himself.

[Scourge of Ages]

Today, on "Canon and Continuity" we discuss the changes made to the 2004 DVD release of the original trilogy.
Specifically, I just noticed something that you may or not have seen yet (that is, if you haven't seen it on DVD yet).

1997 Special Edition:













2004 DVD Edition:


Gratuitous retconning, anyone?

[StarSlayer]

Solo shoots first

[Mongoose]

This would be exactly why I bought the individual limited-edition DVD releases of the OT.  All I'm interested in are the "bonus" original theatrical versions.