[FUBAR-BDHR]

In FS1 it states that we moved out into the galaxy and beyond always superior subduing or eliminating other races.  Who were / are they?  Why is there never any mention of them?  Another big plot hole?

[Shade]

The ancients did. Not us.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

OK so that cutscene is about the Ancients?  Still what happened to the races they didn't destroy?

[Grizzly]

OK so that cutscene is about the Ancients?  Still what happened to the races they didn't destroy?

They absorbed them into their own civilazation. There is only one race which was unharmed, its civilazation (or sort of) preserved...

[Dark Hunter]

Terrans and Vasudans are both within Ancient-space, so they:

1. Got ignored (unlikely)
2. Evolved naturally in the intervening 8,000 years (I consider this unlikely, but who knows?)
3. Were enslaved but were liberated when the Ancients retreated from the Shivan advance (most likely)

So I do not doubt that there are other races out there that have survived the Ancients.

[Jeff Vader]

It really is quite simple, my friend. The Ancients, or whatever their true name was, were an arrogant, power-hungry species. They possessed somewhat powerful technology and used it to conquer worlds. They discovered subspace and started to expand their empire beyond their own star system. They subdued (enslaved) or crushed all advanced life they came across.
The Shivans took note of this, most likely due to their interest in subspace. The Shivans arrived. The Ancients, feeling invincible, took on the challenge and got beaten. They had absolutely no idea of what to do, since the Shivans had shields protecting their ships. The Shivans started annihilating the Ancients and were darn good at that job.
Eventually the Ancients found out how to deal with shields, but at that point their military resources were so depleted that they couldn't make a counterstrike anymore. And, as far as we now, the Shivans obliterated the rest of the Ancients.

End of story.

[S-99]

When the ancients found us, they likely ignored our worlds, or we weren't evolved enough to have any interest to them, or they were gods in our so old stories.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I think Nightm1r has a Shivan theory of his own...it might be relevant to this... 

[Black Wolf]

The HOL prophecies suggest there may be some sort of link between the primitive Vasudans and the ancients, so it's possible V were hinting that they were one of the enslaved races. We know the ancients visited worlds on both sides of the Vasuda jump node, and we know the Vasudans have history (of a sort) going back 10000 years, so it's pretty much a given they would have crossed paths.

As for us, I suspect the Ancients simply never got to Earth, or did so too late to have any significant impact before being driven back by the Shivans. In any case, it looks like intelligent life is hugely common in the FS universe (one relatively small area of space has no less than 4 + "Other subdued (Presumed sentient) races" in 8000 years. So it's almost a given that there will be others out beyond the reach of the ancients.

[Snail]

Personally I hate sci-fi stories that say that advanced races visited Earth a long time ago. IMO it's stupid and complete and utter crap.

ANCIENTS MADE STONEHENGE!!

[AlphaOne]

well the ancients did not just conquer one or two or 10 or 50 sistems from what we can see understand from the cutscenes i mean the Ancients Monologues they were kinda the badd a** dudes of this galaxy till they well they went outside of it and started well mesing around where they did not belong. So basicly they went to the shivan's playgrounds started shooting at them failed at it. The shivans beeeing on equal/more advanced (most definetly more advanced) in terms of subspace(altough how much more advanced is not yet know however we can be sure there was not the gigantic gap the GTVA has in terms of subspace tech when comparing to the shivans), hunted the Anicents down.

So the ancioents got theyr arses kicked all over the shivan home galaxy then they got an even worse arse wooping in theyr own galaxy and eventualy in theory were obliterated as in became extinct (very unlikely if not almost imposible to say the least) .


However that is the basic short story of the other species . However how advanced are those species is still up for debate but even if just a dozen of those species became advanced enough so as to posses subspace tech then well the GTVA will surely run into them if the shivans dont do that first . This should not happen if they do not fight eachother or something. 

[Kie99]

I imagine Sol would have been a low priority system, if it was even discovered by the Ancients.  There was only one jump node leading to and from other systems.

[Harbinger of DOOM]

But, b-but, b-b-but....... it's the Human homeworld! How is it not important?!

[Snail]

But, b-but, b-b-but....... it's the Human homeworld! How is it not important?!

The homeworld of an even less important species.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Haven't finished FS1 so I don't know the whole story but I thought of 2 more possibilities why Earth could have been left alone. 

1.  They were using humans as some kind of guinea pigs. 
2.  The Ancients weren't from this galaxy but the Shivans were.  Shivans had no reason to bother us until we started messing around in subspace. 

[Retsof]

I think there should be a campaign probably set far after Capella, in which there are many more races, not just the three we all know and love.  Maybe an epic multi-species war to finally get rid of the Shivans.  Of course, when the Shivans are gone, who's left to fight but each other..... BUM BUM BUUUUUMMMMM.   

[TrashMan]

1. Location of Ancients homeworld - UNKNOWN
2. Ancients are from another galaxy - HIGHLY UNLIKELY
3. Ancients expanded beyond our galaxy - UNLIKELY

[Jeff Vader]

3. Ancients expanded beyond our galaxy - UNLIKELY

Well, now that you mentioned it,

And we discovered subspace. It gave us our galaxy and it gave us the universe.

When we conquered and colonised in galaxies where we had no place the destruction and the anguish and the loss were the clarion call of our doom.

At least something suggesting that the Ancients did intergalactic conquering.

[NGTM-1R]

3. Ancients expanded beyond our galaxy - UNLIKELY

Considering we know the nodemap shows subspace and not actual distances, or it's not naming the correct stars the right things, or it's all BS anyways...

We have no idea how far an intersystem jump can take you, let alone a Knossos. There are no canon references to a distance limit. For all we can prove, the player has left the Milky Way before, and the Nebula or the system the second Knossos lead to are in some other place in the universe besides our galaxy. If somebody decides there's a node that leads to one of the Magellanic Clouds or Andromeda, then we really shouldn't bat an eye.

[TrashMan]

3. Ancients expanded beyond our galaxy - UNLIKELY

Well, now that you mentioned it,

And we discovered subspace. It gave us our galaxy and it gave us the universe.

When we conquered and colonised in galaxies where we had no place the destruction and the anguish and the loss were the clarion call of our doom.

At least something suggesting that the Ancients did intergalactic conquering.

For Heavens sake! They were being poetic. There are millions of star systems in a Galaxy and the Ancient empire, alltough large, was not THAT large.

Considering we know the nodemap shows subspace and not actual distances, or it's not naming the correct stars the right things, or it's all BS anyways...

Eh? Excuse me HOW do we know that? I don't recall ANY canon source confirming, or even hinting that.

Secondly, it's unlikely. Given the distance between Galaxies and the fact that nodes form between systems as a result of their gravity....any start in the same galaxy is 1000 times clsoer and will have 1000 times a bigger gravitational effect on a system inside it then another galaxy.