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Offline Polpolion

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Not all systems have the things you said.

 
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And even IF all planets had all those things (which they don't), it would be far more interesting to build one big mine than 10 smaller mines. Hence, inter-system trade. And of course it's about good relations, happy people and diplomacy too. A good example would be the US. Some states are specialised in crops, others in industry, and so on and so forth. And apparently, that works fine.
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Offline Snail

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I think that beams using crystals is utterly stupid. IMO.

 
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Face it, everyone: we'll never know how exactly beam cannons work. The only clue we have is that they are "photon beam cannons". The "plasma core insertion" could be a temporary reactor core boost, as well.

 

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The usage of emerald, topaz and rubies to create 'laz0rs' which are actually the 'b3am5' we see in FS2 is a very unsupported and "against common sense" statement to me.

 

Offline eliex

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Okay . . . let's just say that times have changed since we first started as cavemen.  :nod:

 

Offline S-99

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I dont see the beams having the same effect as plasma might, I think I remember my fighter getting knocked around a good deal, maybe they are some sort of particle accelerator??

Why couldn't a beam knock you around? If it's plasma based sure it could knock you around as gas is a form of matter. I mean plasma does have weight and mass, not to mention being subjected to the high speed a plasma beam goes from turret to target...you'll either be pieces or knocked around. This is if beams are plasma based (it seems logical that beams are plasma based). If beams aren't plasma based, then making a gigantic super laser wouldn't be very hard since most of the primary weapons for fighters are gas lasers. If you can make a tiny laser, why not make a honking huge ass laser? You certainly wouldn't need to steal tech from the shivans to build a huge laser when you already have diversified laser technology .

This is also my deduction that beams are not lasers.

On another note people need to be careful with the photons in particular. Photon beams cannons does not suggest that beams are lasers either. Fire emits photons, plasma emits photons, and lasers emit photons. The word photon around here at the hlpbb is used a little too strictly along side the word laser.
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Offline Polpolion

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I think that beams using crystals is utterly stupid. IMO.

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Quantum Field Theory or Quoted For Truth? :D

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Offline Woolie Wool

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<as far as I know> Beams need gems:  Vasudans, topazes
                                                                Terrans, emeralds
                                                                 Shivans, rubies.

Do you read Star Wars novels? I can assure you that beam cannons are not lightsabers.
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Offline Snail

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Even then Star Wars used non-conventional crystals anyway.

 

Offline AlphaOne

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The only problem is that use of such a weapon could possibly destroy the universe as we know it in the event of a malfunction, so their use would probably be highly restricted.




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But then again wtf are these guis tring to study over there? Hell do they even understand 100% of the stuff that happenes there or are thy just asuming they know???


Also if beams work in any way as a particle accelerator they should be able to hit targets at masive distances not just 4 km. Also projecting  matter at a relativistic speed (im asuming relativistic speeds in the artivle means near the speed of light) would cause the said matter to acumulate infinite mass . By gaining infinite mass it would gain infinite gravity or something similar to a black hole of the sorts.

This is just something off the top of my devastetad brain whych a proffesor of mine (phisics of course
) tried to explain.

Also since im not 100% sure of his actual explanation this could be wrong. However i do remember very clear that i was arguing with him about the theory of relativity sayng basicly that it has to be wrong. Because if that were the case then light particles wich has been proven have mass should in theory becaome well sort of like a black hole or something. Or rather miniature black holes.


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Offline Agent_Koopa

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No, I think photons are massless.
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Offline Kazan

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plasma is one of the four primary states of matter, it has mass - a stream of it striking your ship is going to cause a physical impact.

most of the weaponry in FS2 is probably modulated plasma - normally in pulses, beams being continuous streams.
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okokok, a ship could get knocked around by plasma, I was not thinking clearly... Im still not.


I think we can all agree that the weapons in FS2 are nothing we can comprehend, so Im going to say they are magic, therefore they could use gems to power them.
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Offline blowfish

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okokok, a ship could get knocked around by plasma, I was not thinking clearly... Im still not.


I think we can all agree that the weapons in FS2 are nothing we can comprehend, so Im going to say they are magic, therefore they could use gems to power them.


They could, but it is unlikely that they acually do.

Oh and BTW, I don't think that gems can really "generate" power, do they?

 

Offline Kazan

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nope, gems are not a power source

they can be used to focus power, but they are not a power source
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Offline Flipside

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And if it's plasma, they'd be useless, if it's photons, the size of a gem needed to focus a beam laser would be impossibly large, I would have thought, which would suggest man-made gems rather than natural ones.

 

Offline S-99

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I think we can all agree that the weapons in FS2 are nothing we can comprehend

This is a cheap cop out for a compromise.

Weapons in fs2 are quite comprehendable. They're not that complicated, it's all in the realm of lasers and plasma. That's not so complicated, and nor is flak cannons either. Understanding plasma as blob turrets makes sense. And by examining beams you know that they aren't just super lasers. A stream of plasma as opposed to bolts of plasma. Sure why not? It'd be like having standard guns and evolving eventually into a machine gun (single shot bullets getting upgraded to streams of bullets).

Plasma emits photons anyway, the name photon beam cannon was most likely used incorrectly, or perhaps it wasn't. Also beams not being lasers and being plasma based makes sense for their 4km range. To direct plasma you use magnetic fields. And as far as you can direct a magnetic field for a beam is probably how far it's going to go (4km in this case) before the beam starts to dissipate into a plume of non-concentrated plasma gas.
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nope, gems are not a power source

they can be used to focus power, but they are not a power source

all Im trying to say is that IF the beams are in fact magic, then they could use gems to power them. Unless you can offer something to contradict that gems do not give off magical power or energies
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