[Asuko]

I wonder, how would vacuum boots work in space? It's a question regarding tge forces of attraction aspect.

[Mura]

I wonder, how would vacuum boots work in space? It's a question regarding tge forces of attraction aspect.

If they were vacuum, they weren't in a space without air, might be unbreathable to us, but shivans have to breath something, and having gas tanks on you all the time would be too annoying when you have a whole ship that can be filled with the gas you breath, so the vacuum boots might as well work (though i doubt they work properly anyway, i am more pro-magnetic boots guy) 
If you need proofs you can just see that the boarding party isn't wearing pressurized suits, just regular battle suits with gas masks.

[Polpolion]

I wonder, how would vacuum boots work in space? It's a question regarding tge forces of attraction aspect.

Note how the troops were in the ship with bare skin exposed. That means that there is some kind of gas in there to equalize the pressure. And what you do is you place your foot on or very close to the desired surface, and activate the vacuum. Past that, I'd imagine it would act like those suction cups.

EDIT: And Mura said the same thing. Sorry.

[TrashMan]

metallic clang? It sure sounds like they are walking on metal.

[Polpolion]

metallic clang? It sure sounds like they are walking on metal.

If you listen closely, you'll see that there are plenty of steps the soldiers take when there are no metalic clings, and when there are the clings, it doesn't align to their footsteps. It's something else.

And:

I won't deny that there could be some metal parts of the ship, though. Even if there is, it doesn't invalidate my point about a fusion of biotic and abotic materials and/or control systems.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Well one thing that is almost certain is they are wearing magnetic boots as they turn them on to attach to the ship.  Normally you would think that would mean a metal surface.  However that doesn't mean that the organic components couldn't have metals in them.  Remember human blood contains a lot of iron.  Not enough to attract magnetic boots but then again were not Shivan.   

[Asuko]

Wow, I love how there's an argument going on about the relevance of magnetic/vacuum boots toward determining whether Shivans are primarily organic or metallic. It's a perfectly (not)sane thing to do, right?

[terran_emperor]

I think shivans are a bit of both. They have organic tech...
Thier ships are Space-fairing Cyber Lobsters - as the ships grow, they discard the metallic outer hull parts and grow new ones like a Lobster/crab discarding its shell

[blowfish]

I doubt that shivan ships actually "grow".  While it is possible, even likely that they have some organic parts (the TNS Cylon raider and Basestar come to mind) and not entirely impossible they could be alive, I just don't think they would grow.  Someone mentioned earlier how all shivan ships of the same class look the same, further evidence that they don't grow.

[terran_emperor]

Well, imagine how many ships in-game you would need to make every ship unique...and how the game can only handle a certain number...

But in universe, each ship of a class would either have slight  differences or the entire class would be grown to a set template- the shivan's knowledge of Oganic tech is such that they can grow it to meet a specific design with no physical varience  between individual ships

[blowfish]

Well, biological parts could be grown from the same template, but I still think that Shivan ships have some sort of mechanical parts.

[terran_emperor]

Well i have never said that they were completely organic. I believe that while they are part-organic, they are also part mechanical. But that doesnt mean they cant grow to a fixed template

[blowfish]

Is there anything left to discuss on this topic?

[Kosh]

the shivan's knowledge of Oganic tech is such that they can grow it to meet a specific design with no physical varience  between individual ships

Certainly explains why the Lilith has twice the armor and better weapons than a Cain despite being the same size.

[blowfish]

Well actually, the Lilith has almost 4 times the armor.  I think it is really a later design based on the cain but radically upgraded.  The Lilith would use different armor and probably different innards, just laid out the same.

[TrashMan]

Shivan fighters look metallic. Shots impacting their hull sound the same as impacting GTVA metallic hull. Shivan ships explode just as human ships - no organs or blood flying around.

[Jeff Vader]

So, to revise the word 'organic'. If you shot an object made of polyester, would you expect to see blood and organs flying around? After all, polyester is an organic compound.

[Asuko]

Shivan ships could be made out of a mixture of carbon nanofiber and metal plating. The insides could be biological.

Is there anything left to discuss on this topic?

I'm going to have to second this. This topic has just turned into speculation and an exchange of opinions (not truly a flame war, yet).

[Flipside]

95% of threads in the General Freespace area are based on theory, conjecture and interpretation of facts

You could probably get away with the idea that a framework is created in space, and then the organic components are 'grown' under a controlled technique, so building a ship is immensely faster because you don't have to do all the wiring/ducting etc, it generates itself to a 'pre-programmed' format, in a similar way to how plastics and polymers can be created. To be honest, it's not too dissimilar to ideas that are being researched right now on Earth.

[Asuko]

Ah, I understand it better then.

Are you talking about how compounds 'self-assemble'? This is being researched for nanomachines, protein folding, etc.