Originally posted by Shrike
1) Those blue buttons will stay until Setekh can make us shiny new buttons.
2) Aren't you being a bit melodramatic?
"Ooooh, there's an extra row of buttons! Save me!"
Geez, you people are acting like I nailed your dog to your door..... Perhaps I'm just used to vB already, but all these extra buttons don't scare me.
Truth be told, I think you're being more than a bit melodramatic, Shrike:
"Geez, you people are acting like I nailed your dog to your door....." You asked why some of us found the new system worse than the old. You have to expect us to answer.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have to restart Netscape if I have to edit a post. That's a serious problem for me. I can't even start a new window. I have to gun the netscape I'm using, and all others running on the box. I'd switch browsers, but, unfortunately, this is the closest it gets to a standards compliant browser on this OS. If I have to restart my browser regularly (and thus close my work in other browser sessions), I'll have to give up HLP. Not much concern for you, I'm sure. I consider it a serious problem though.
You brought up the buttons and I'd like to address them too. They're clutter. They take up too much room. An option for text links (or to remove them from my view of the board) would be most welcome. As it stands right now, they take forever for all of them to load, even when they're in local cache. Since the people that created vBulletin didn't see fit to include the size attributes in the HTML, and no one else has gone behind them to do it, the page jumps and bounces continuously until they are all loaded. On a long thread, this can take a while. It makes it difficult to jump to and read the last post because by the time the page is loaded and you're on the last post, the page has already extended it down out of frame to accomodate all those annoying extra pictures. That's not your fault, Shrike: its bad interface design on the part of the vBulletin's authors.
The most glaring cause of the visual clutter, in my opinion, isn't the extraneous image buttons. Its the manner in which vBulletin displays message threads as a long chain of individual HTML tables, instead of as one large table. Thank goodness you guys haven't done anything strange in the spacer include, which would only exacerbate the problem. By having each comment in its own table, there is no visual uniformity between the comments. The columns can go all over the place willy-nilly. A single large table, with properly defined column widths, would solve that problem rather nicely.
That's my .02.
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