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Offline captain-custard

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As I pointed out earlier, a great deal of the dietary requirements we have (for optimum health) cannot be synthesized into an ingestible form.


can some one tell me what the great deal of dietry requirements that you can only get from meat? 


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Well, to point you in the right direction, this is what Wikipedia has to say.

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The American Dietetic Association has said that "appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."[9] However, poorly planned vegan diets can be deficient in nutrients such as vitamin B12,[68] vitamin D,[69] calcium,[70][69] iodine[71] and omega-3 fatty acids.[72] These deficiencies have potentially serious consequences, including anemia,[73] rickets[74] and cretinism[75] in children, and osteomalacia[74] and hypothyroidism[75] in adults.


Yeah, it's Wikipedia, but it's externally cited, and the ADA is a pretty centrist organization even if they have a stated pro-vegetarian view.

Hold on to that until our resident bioligists arrive.

 

Offline captain-custard

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Well, to point you in the right direction, this is what Wikipedia has to say.

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The American Dietetic Association has said that "appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."[9] However, poorly planned vegan diets can be deficient in nutrients such as vitamin B12,[68] vitamin D,[69] calcium,[70][69] iodine[71] and omega-3 fatty acids.[72] These deficiencies have potentially serious consequences, including anemia,[73] rickets[74] and cretinism[75] in children, and osteomalacia[74] and hypothyroidism[75] in adults.


Yeah, it's Wikipedia, but it's externally cited, and the ADA is a pretty centrist organization even if they have a stated pro-vegetarian view.

Hold on to that until our resident bioligists arrive.


ok all of the omega 3/6 etc can be found in oils , hemp oil ,flaxoil are two of the ,all the calcium you need can be taken from sesame seeds etc , the vitamin B can be found within many vegetables etc including soya shoots , iodine is easy eat kelp( seaweed ) high in iodine and tastes like dirt but good for you all the same ,


the ADA like so many organisations have there heads well and truly placed up the arses of there corporate funders , ive probably made a few mistakes in my text, but being a vegetarian perhaps the ADA can forgive me for being a cretin............


ooops they've started again ,


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Offline Polpolion

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I agree, they are being treated like ****, but GAH, another smuggy vegetarian ad movie.
After all, this is just a move of the vegetable industry.
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Offline TrashMan

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But...but..I like my meats..I cant imagine a pizza without salami! :blah:
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And that of course.
But I want to see a normal person who really DOES care about all this and stops eating meat.
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Offline captain-custard

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And that of course.
But I want to see a normal person who really DOES care about all this and stops eating meat.


define normal please...

Ive never ever seen or talked to someone who is normal.

i cared enough to stop eating meat, and that was over 20 years ago,

but then again i hope i don't fall into the "normal" person bracket...



i have no problem with ppl eating meat what so ever , i do have a problem with ppl telling me that i lack in essential vitamins and minerals, but maybe they mean vitamin madcow and mineral bsg


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I do view vegetarians to be quite anormal, yes.
I mean, come one, it's in our very nature. Else we would have plan eater dents.
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Offline Nuke

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lets make a gatling gun than shoots big chunks of brutalized meat. load a half a ton of meat into the shells. which are loaded into the feeder to the barrels assembly. which would be 10, no! eleven! barrels, which would be rotated at about 30rpm max which comes out to 330 rounds a minute. not alot, no, as gatling guns would go. but remember its firing huge chunks of compressed meat, in excess of half a ton, 330 times a minute! when its left smoldering a crater it willl have been touching the ground for more than 10 seconds,  which will never be eaten, cause that would be gross.

the animals which are to provide projectiles for the gatling gun will be forced to walk double file on conveyor belts will swiftly be intersected by a series of blades, organized as such to carve a shell out of each section of animal material (a 6ft x 3ft box across the belt, approx 2 animals thick). after that the shells are ejected into the casing system, and spare parts continue down the conveyor to be pulpified and sausaged and later cut into shell shaped objects. they seem to aim a little better but spread the damage out too much or simply shotgun in mid air.

the casing system loads powder into shell casings and then places the meat shells within them, and finally deposit it on the feeder belt system where it gets loaded into the ammo store and eventually off to the gun to be fired. weather you get the shotgun sausage shells or the meat splatter shells which just seem to go everywhere. you will soon know the pleasure of shooting your meat off.
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Offline achtung

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A full, healthy, and tasty vegan diet is extremely expensive and time consuming.

Prove me wrong.
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Someone want to fry me up a nice piece of sirloin?
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Someone want to fry me up a nice piece of sirloin?

Yeah, but it's tasty, and, depending on how you cook it, it can be cooked up pretty quick.
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Offline Mika

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I haven't formed opinion about vegetarians (except the inconvenience they arrive at your house and haven't told about their decision). Human is omnivorous, but if some people want to eat veggies then it's their call. The only comment I have is that the healthy vegetarian diet is probably possible, but getting those incredients above the polar circle might turn out to be difficult.

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Offline captain-custard

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A full, healthy, and tasty vegan diet is extremely expensive and time consuming.

Prove me wrong.

mmmm read next quote

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Someone want to fry me up a nice piece of sirloin?

Yeah, but it's tasty, and, depending on how you cook it, it can be cooked up pretty quick.
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yes pretty quick after its spent 7 months in the womb and then another year being fead growth hormones and wandering around a field.... 4 months in cold storage , 2 weeks at the supermarket supply depo then however long it takes you to cook it , damn its almost instant
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Offline Polpolion

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A full, healthy, and tasty vegan diet is extremely expensive and time consuming.

Prove me wrong.

mmmm read next quote

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Someone want to fry me up a nice piece of sirloin?

Yeah, but it's tasty, and, depending on how you cook it, it can be cooked up pretty quick.
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yes pretty quick after its spent 7 months in the womb and then another year being fead growth hormones and wandering around a field.... 4 months in cold storage , 2 weeks at the supermarket supply depo then however long it takes you to cook it , damn its almost instant

And tell me: Who here has had to wait 2 years between ordering a sirloin steak and eating it? No one. Your point is invalid, andicirk.

 

Offline achtung

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A full, healthy, and tasty vegan diet is extremely expensive and time consuming.

Prove me wrong.

mmmm read next quote

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Someone want to fry me up a nice piece of sirloin?

Yeah, but it's tasty, and, depending on how you cook it, it can be cooked up pretty quick.
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yes pretty quick after its spent 7 months in the womb and then another year being fead growth hormones and wandering around a field.... 4 months in cold storage , 2 weeks at the supermarket supply depo then however long it takes you to cook it , damn its almost instant

It's called aging:p 

In all seriousness, I do see where you're going with this, but I was talking refridgerator to plate.

Out of curiosity, do you think milk is terrible as well?
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Offline captain-custard

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It's called aging.   

In all seriousness, I do see where you're going with this, but I was talking refridgerator to plate.

Out of curiosity, do you think milk is terrible as well?


the thing is i dont think anything is terrible ... each to his/her own ...so to speak

just crappy misconcieved arguements to justify this or that are annoying with the exception of trolling ( thats an art form)

basically eat what you want,  believe what you want .... its your karma


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Offline Polpolion

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It's called aging.   

In all seriousness, I do see where you're going with this, but I was talking refridgerator to plate.

Out of curiosity, do you think milk is terrible as well?


the thing is i dont think anything is terrible ... each to his/her own ...so to speak

just crappy misconcieved arguements to justify this or that are annoying with the exception of trolling ( thats an art form)

basically eat what you want,  believe what you want .... its your karma




What he meant is "If you're so opposed to the consumption of meats, then what is your opinion of the consumption of Milk, or other dairy products?"

 

Offline captain-custard

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What he meant is "If you're so opposed to the consumption of meats, then what is your opinion of the consumption of Milk, or other dairy products?"

the answer is in the first post
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a balanced and healthy diet is possible without animal products of any kind , very few meat eaters have a healthy and balanced diet, i havent eaten meat or any animal product for more than 20 years , my work is physically and mentally demanding , at my last medical examination , i was told that i am much healtier than 90% of ppl who are 10years younger than me; im not a food fascist i still drink , smoke occasionaly etc , i dont force my views on anyone but i dont like the misinformation given out by the huge meat, milk conglomerates;;;;;;;; 10grams of sesame grains has more calcium than 100grams of a dairy product ......;;;;

anyway ill sit back and shut up

at no point have i said that im opposed to the consomation of meat , i think that ive hinted at the point that i am opposed to the current farming and industrial food chain based system and the misinformation surrounding meat and its nutritional benefits and those who dont eat meat and the obvious (payed expert opinions) nutritional short commings of a dietry regime without meat in it......

and i n previous post i think i was clear
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the thing is i dont think anything is terrible ... each to his/her own ...so to speak

just crappy misconcieved arguements to justify this or that are annoying with the exception of trolling ( thats an art form)

basically eat what you want,  believe what you want .... its your karma

that my arguement was against the misinformation and towards a personal responsability based on the freedom of choice...
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