[S-99]

There is electronic firing systems for caseless rounds. Which means that it needs energy to operate. I'm pretty sure the maxim isn't a railgun because of the fact that railguns require the use of the payload sliding across charged rails. A coil gun does not need rails.

[Woolie Wool]

 I said it could also be a coilgun, but for Twist of Fate I assumed it was a a railgun because I had other railguns in the mod already. Plus the glowing blue rings are cool.

[General Battuta]

Technically there's no reason a railgun should have glowing blue rings, but I'm assuming you're saying it's a cool artistic convention?

I do rather agree with that.

[NGTM-1R]

I said it could also be a coilgun, but for Twist of Fate I assumed it was a a railgun because I had other railguns in the mod already. Plus the glowing blue rings are cool.

But anyways, I would love to know why any of us should make the Maxim have any commonality with your mod at all, since, after all, it's a mod vs. the main game.

Which is what TrashMan should have said, but didn't, because he's TrashMan.

[TrashMan]

Oh, I did say that, only in far fewer words. Anyone who pushes INF as canon or important deserves to die.

Speaking of which, you insult will not go unpunished.
*sodomises ngtm1r with a morningstar*

[karajorma]

Only the admins round here get to deal out punishments so rein it in.

[Woolie Wool]

Oh, I did say that, only in far fewer words. Anyone who pushes INF as canon or important deserves to die.

Speaking of which, you insult will not go unpunished.
*sodomises ngtm1r with a morningstar*

I didn't say INF was canon. Have you stopped taking your medication?

But anyways, I would love to know why any of us should make the Maxim have any commonality with your mod at all, since, after all, it's a mod vs. the main game.

I was really wanting you to adopt it not because it's used by my mod, but because it's cool.

[TrashMan]

Only the admins round here get to deal out punishments so rein it in.

No problem. I'm done anyway.

*hands Kaj the bloody morningstar*

[S-99]

maxim is no railgun or coilgun.

[Woolie Wool]

Proof? Or will you just talk out of your ass? The Maxim consumes large amounts of ship energy and fires ammunition. Therefore, whatever fires the ammunition is drawing power directly from the ship's capacitor bank. This is almost certainly an electronic firing system like...a railgun or coilgun. The explosives are IN the shells so that the shells make big booms and do more damage.

[S-99]

Caseless ammunition also has an eletric firing system. Also it just says that there was advancements in metalurgy and efficient conventional explosives. After this there's the fact that guns also use efficient conventional explosives to drive a bullet.

[Woolie Wool]

The incredible amount of energy used by Maxim is far, far more than sufficient to ignite a powder charge. It's extreme overkill. You'd only need that much juice to power a railgun or coilgun. The thing uses as much energy as SIX Subachs. The gun also does not make the "bang" a propellant charge would.

The Maxim's firing characteristics, energy consumption, and description make NO sense aside from an electrodynamic mass driver.

[General Battuta]

I agree that it's a railgun/coilgun.

[Hellstryker]

I agree that it's a railgun/coilgun.

 

[S-99]

The incredible amount of energy used by Maxim is far, far more than sufficient to ignite a powder charge. It's extreme overkill. You'd only need that much juice to power a railgun or coilgun. The thing uses as much energy as SIX Subachs. The gun also does not make the "bang" a propellant charge would.

The Maxim's firing characteristics, energy consumption, and description make NO sense aside from an electrodynamic mass driver.

Now this is pure speculation as far as delving into the unkowns of the fs universe anyone can't consider. We don't know what conventional explosives are in the fs universe (aside from bombs). And you're really not thinking about how energy intensive a gun would need to be to require an electronic system (Gattling gun/mini gun comes to mind). That much energy isn't just used for burning the powder to expel a bullet, but is also used to support the high rapid firing rates of big automatic guns. The maxim is a big high rate of fire gun (so why not consider this?).

However it does not have rail propelled ammunition, so it's not a railgun. The other thing is that it's quite clear that the maxim spits out bullets. Another thing to keep in mind is that in the scp the maxim gets replaced from using weapons energy to actually firing bullets that you need to reload. if it spits out bullets why does it need to even use the weapons energy of your fighter? One is for the drive system of the ammunition. Two is for the fact that V didn't do a very good job making a bullet spitting weapon. They made an awesome weapon, but they never put into the game a bullet counter so you know how much ammunition you have left, and instead tied the maxim down to your weapon energy exclusively (SCP fixed this).

The maxim does have a smoothbore barrel. So since it's not a railgun, then it's most likely a coilgun or a normal gun. And since the tech description doesn't much bother with mentioning something as big of a detail as explosive tipped bullets, but rather only mentions conventional explosives once...that doesn't leave much either in the area of explosive tipped bullets. If maxim bullets were explosive tipped, i'm pretty sure the tech description would say it outright since that's a pretty main characteristic of the gun as well as the fact that it uses bullets. The tech description for the maxim is horrible.

But you can deduce that it's not a railgun (no rails). So that leaves a coilgun (most likely). And the detailess conventional explosives being mentioned (this detail doesn't suggest much at all). So there you have it. It's a coilgun! And at least i'm looking for an explanation to why it is as opposed to you woolie wool going off and saying nothing more than "IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN!IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN!IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN!IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN!IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN!IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN!IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN!IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN! IT'S A RAILGUN/COILGUN!....S-99's just talking out of his ass again".

Proof? Or will you just talk out of your ass?

At least i was providing something dumb****.

[General Battuta]

You're right, the mention of efficient conventional explosives is puzzling and a bit of a contradiction.

However, the in-game fact of weapon energy usage suggests it's a coilgun because it uses massive amounts of energy whereas real-life caseless weapons barely require any power.

[Shade]

Another thing to keep in mind is that in the scp the maxim gets replaced from using weapons energy to actually firing bullets that you need to reload

No, it doesn't. The SCP allows you to make weapons that use ammunition, but it most certainly does not change the maxim to behave that way.

[CP5670]

Proof? Or will you just talk out of your ass?

At least i was providing something dumb****.

Cool it down, guys.

What the Maxim is supposed to be or how it operates is irrelevant here anyway. The original effect is canonical and the media VP one should bear at least some resemblance to it, enough that you can still recognize it as a Maxim.

[S-99]

Rail guns is just not the way to go when making electronic weapons. Those rails get an enormous amount of friction with the ammunition needing to slide on them.

[Hellstryker]

Rail guns is just not the way to go when making electronic weapons. Those rails get an enormous amount of friction with the ammunition needing to slide on them.

Depends what kind of material the rails are made out of. we don't know what sort of uber heat resistant metal they may have 365 years from now. of course i agree it's a coilgun anyway so you may as well ignore this post