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Offline LHN91

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
I broke my good headphones about a month ago. Which sucked. Decided at the time I couldn't afford to replace them with the same ones (sat around 80 bucks list price), so I bought a cheap set for now to get buy in hopes that I'd be able to replace them eventually.

Looked today while bored in class, guess what? Those headphones? They're on sale. For 40$ CDN. Which would have been in my price range had I not just bought the cheap temporary set. And now I don't have the spare cash.   :banghead:

You need to move to the United States, where we have a long-standing tradition of borrowing money to frivolously purchase anything shiny that crosses our line of sight.

I have a credit card. I also have a student line of credit. I'm also looking at having both of them being maxed out before the end of the winter semester as it is. My parents live 45 minutes from the nearest bus/train line, or an hour and 15 minutes drive from my Uni, so I more or less need a car unless I want to spend around 100 dollars any time me or my girlfriend needs/wants to go home.

And, for that matter, OSAP penalizes you for working during the semester unless you do it through their program, and even through their program only if you make less than 1000 per semester. Any other jobs/anything over the 1000 under their program deduct off of my OSAP at a rate of 80 cents on every dollar I make. So money is permanently tight.

Plus, for that matter I have to run any purchases by my girlfriend, and seeing as I have working, albeit crappy headphones already, she probably won't be so fine with it.

 :hopping:

aaaaaand...... rant-fest done!

 

Offline Scotty

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
I live two hours from my parent's house and don't need a car or a bus/train ticket or anything.  Just ask someone you know from around there when they're headed back and see if you can get a ride there.

 

Offline LHN91

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I live two hours from my parent's house and don't need a car or a bus/train ticket or anything.  Just ask someone you know from around there when they're headed back and see if you can get a ride there.

Except that no person from anywhere near my hometown who goes to my Uni  has a car but me. Yeah. That and I more or less never hang out with any of the 2 or 3 people that fit that specification lol. Kinda happens when you're from a 5000 person town in the middle of nowhere.

 

Offline deathfun

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And, for that matter, OSAP penalizes you for working during the semester unless you do it through their program, and even through their program only if you make less than 1000 per semester. Any other jobs/anything over the 1000 under their program deduct off of my OSAP at a rate of 80 cents on every dollar I make. So money is permanently tight.

How can they penalize you? I'm not entirely sure how they would know you were working without their help anyhow...
Not only that, but why be involved with an organization that is hellbent on screwing you over...

Perhaps I just don't understand the Ontario way... ah well.
"No"

 

Offline LHN91

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
OSAP has access to all of your tax info (as it's a government program), and you have to report all of your taxable income on the application form or they get very angry. Standard case of people cheating the system making it hard for people who actually need the help to get it.

I worked during first year, and noticed the amount I got second semester was drastically reduced. Went in and talked to the financial services department, who explained that that was how OSAP does it. I would deal with just the bank, but I need a co-signee, and my parents have been struggling lately so the bank wouldn't let it go through with them signing, and my grandmother, who co-signed before decided she was too paranoid over owing money to help me out. And my options beyond that are more or less non-existant, I've checked. So I'm kinda stuck.

 

Offline Nuke

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
i ran the main handle wiring on the joysick of doom, cut the traces, soldered 2 wires for each button, ad nauseum. i decided to add a structural wire between 2 now dead termanals through the heat shrink and looped it around a screw post to add structural beef to the relatively thin wiring. cut a foot of cable from an old parallel cable to get the wires, which were in a variety of colors and stripe patterns, i used pairs of similar color so that i can identify the ends later. solder shrink run and re-assemble everything. more heat shrink to bundle the ends and protect it from chaffing, and a plastic cable harness to attach the bundle to the stick. its kinda loose but il probably use the surplus room for the potentiometer wires.

also decided what to do with the handle of secondary stick. i destroyed two potentiometers trying to get one to fit in the socket that an old skool toggle button used to go. after that i rummaged though the salvage bin i found some large plastic trim pots with the right size peg to fit into my knob. it was kinda small so i wrapped it in a lot of electical tape till it fit, and tightened the retention screws. i was kinda concerned they would crack the plastic but it held and i tested it with a multimeter and a battery (right way to read a pot is to use it as a voltage divider, ground one side and apply voltage to the other and read the voltage at the center pin), and it worked and felt pretty solid. so now what was a 2 xis stick is now a 3 axis stick. it also doesnt get in the way of the main stick which is a plus.

i still have 3 more axis ports at my disposal. i still dont have a throttle lever anywhere on the unit. i may do a single slider and a couple trim knobs/sliders, or i may do a a dual throttle and rudder knob. another idea is to add a port for an external throttle and rudder.
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Offline Pred the Penguin

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
There better be pics when you finish that. O_o

 

Offline deathfun

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
OSAP has access to all of your tax info (as it's a government program), and you have to report all of your taxable income on the application form or they get very angry. Standard case of people cheating the system making it hard for people who actually need the help to get it.

I worked during first year, and noticed the amount I got second semester was drastically reduced. Went in and talked to the financial services department, who explained that that was how OSAP does it. I would deal with just the bank, but I need a co-signee, and my parents have been struggling lately so the bank wouldn't let it go through with them signing, and my grandmother, who co-signed before decided she was too paranoid over owing money to help me out. And my options beyond that are more or less non-existant, I've checked. So I'm kinda stuck.

Well ****. I'm glad there aren't any things like that in BC...
I actually get to keep the money I make with the exception of normal deductions of course

Seems to me that OSAP is essentially a money grab with little benefit to the grabee
"No"

 

Offline LHN91

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
OSAP has access to all of your tax info (as it's a government program), and you have to report all of your taxable income on the application form or they get very angry. Standard case of people cheating the system making it hard for people who actually need the help to get it.

I worked during first year, and noticed the amount I got second semester was drastically reduced. Went in and talked to the financial services department, who explained that that was how OSAP does it. I would deal with just the bank, but I need a co-signee, and my parents have been struggling lately so the bank wouldn't let it go through with them signing, and my grandmother, who co-signed before decided she was too paranoid over owing money to help me out. And my options beyond that are more or less non-existant, I've checked. So I'm kinda stuck.

Well ****. I'm glad there aren't any things like that in BC...
I actually get to keep the money I make with the exception of normal deductions of course

Seems to me that OSAP is essentially a money grab with little benefit to the grabee

The intention with OSAP is that everyone who uses it should be on more or less exactly the same level/have exactly the same amount of money/be at the same standard of living, and to do that they make several heavily biased assumptions about the "average" situation and impose the expectation that you conform to it. Work/study programs through OSAP exist, but only really allow for 1000 dollars extra per semester, and require you to apply and get a job on campus.

 

Offline Firstdragon34

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
Drive like lightening! Crash like thunder! I got a rabbit foot hanging off my black leather jacket!  ;7 :pimp:

To boldy go where no seaman has gone before!

PS Don't ask.
A small voice in my head tells me they are have followed us here in the Milky Way. They follow us until we are dead at their feet. We are nomands of the stars, no longer the race that was loved by the Great Elders. My name is Kyral and this is my story of survival.

There is no sanctuary for us, in this Universe. We will fight the Terror for one last time on this Shining World. May the Transcendent judge us kindly in the Life Stream.

 

Offline Nuke

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
There better be pics when you finish that. O_o

i wanted to take some more but the project was upstairs and the camera was downstairs and im a lazy ****. there are some pics a couple pages back though.
I can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

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Offline Firstdragon34

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
Okay. I'm sane. . . for now.

Man, I can't imagine making my own joystick! Your awesome and nuts at the sametime Nuk!  :P
A small voice in my head tells me they are have followed us here in the Milky Way. They follow us until we are dead at their feet. We are nomands of the stars, no longer the race that was loved by the Great Elders. My name is Kyral and this is my story of survival.

There is no sanctuary for us, in this Universe. We will fight the Terror for one last time on this Shining World. May the Transcendent judge us kindly in the Life Stream.

 

Offline deathfun

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The intention with OSAP is that everyone who uses it should be on more or less exactly the same level/have exactly the same amount of money/be at the same standard of living, and to do that they make several heavily biased assumptions about the "average" situation and impose the expectation that you conform to it. Work/study programs through OSAP exist, but only really allow for 1000 dollars extra per semester, and require you to apply and get a job on campus.

Everyone who uses it...
Well, that seems like it's an optional thing. What if you opt out?
"No"

 

Offline LHN91

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The intention with OSAP is that everyone who uses it should be on more or less exactly the same level/have exactly the same amount of money/be at the same standard of living, and to do that they make several heavily biased assumptions about the "average" situation and impose the expectation that you conform to it. Work/study programs through OSAP exist, but only really allow for 1000 dollars extra per semester, and require you to apply and get a job on campus.

Everyone who uses it...
Well, that seems like it's an optional thing. What if you opt out?

Then I'm back to trying to find a way to pay for University without any help/savings/time for a full time job, and while having to live away from home.

 

Offline Scotty

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
This OSAP doesn't sound like it's helping you all that much.  There's got to be some benefit you're not telling us about.

 

Offline LHN91

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This OSAP doesn't sound like it's helping you all that much.  There's got to be some benefit you're not telling us about.

The main benefit, really, is not having to work full time while going to school. If I didn't have OSAP, I probably wouldn't be able to go to Uni. Or at least, I wouldn't have enough time in a day to attend classes and work and do homework.

 

Offline Pred the Penguin

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
The way you're describing it, sounds like it only covers the bare necessities though. How is that considered 'normal'?

 

Offline Nuke

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There better be pics when you finish that. O_o

i wanted to take some more but the project was upstairs and the camera was downstairs and im a lazy ****. there are some pics a couple pages back though.

i took more pics of the progress of doom. first off, the knob of doom:

second moar wiring work done and new gimbal config:

and finally i figured id show the electronics im going to be using:


and if you missed em the old pics:
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc103/Emperor_of_Nihil/IMG_0067copy.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc103/Emperor_of_Nihil/IMG_0065copy.jpg
I can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

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Offline Scotty

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
This OSAP doesn't sound like it's helping you all that much.  There's got to be some benefit you're not telling us about.

The main benefit, really, is not having to work full time while going to school. If I didn't have OSAP, I probably wouldn't be able to go to Uni. Or at least, I wouldn't have enough time in a day to attend classes and work and do homework.

So ditch it and work part time (20 hours a week instead of 40-ish).  Even at minimum (American, at least) wage, if you're working part time, you'll make more than $1000 a semester, and for less than full time job time commitments.

 

Offline LHN91

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L It aint NEVER Over FOOL!!!!
This OSAP doesn't sound like it's helping you all that much.  There's got to be some benefit you're not telling us about.

The main benefit, really, is not having to work full time while going to school. If I didn't have OSAP, I probably wouldn't be able to go to Uni. Or at least, I wouldn't have enough time in a day to attend classes and work and do homework.

So ditch it and work part time (20 hours a week instead of 40-ish).  Even at minimum (American, at least) wage, if you're working part time, you'll make more than $1000 a semester, and for less than full time job time commitments.

Minimum wage would be 10.25/hour here, so 20 hours a week, would put me at just shy of 1000/month. And that doesn't include tuition costs, which OSAP does cover.

EDIT: So in other words not really enough to get by. I've done most of the calculations, and they pretty much screw you over whichever way you go. I grumble, but at the end of the day I get by.

Can't believe this turned into a full scale rant-fest  :nervous:
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