[Kopachris]

Still fighting the Linux battle.  The fact that I have to use command-line package install tools in the year 2013 is kind of sad.

What distro are you using?  With most of them, you don't have to use command-line package install tools ever.

Also, what's wrong with command-line tools?

[Mongoose]

i had to cut it out of its case which was ultrasonically welded in a plastic case, in the process i sliced a huge gash in my left middle finger, so i cauterized the wound with my soldering iron and continued working.

Nuke stories are best stories.

Still fighting the Linux battle.  The fact that I have to use command-line package install tools in the year 2013 is kind of sad.

What distro are you using?  With most of them, you don't have to use command-line package install tools ever.

Also, what's wrong with command-line tools?

Ubuntu, varying between 12.04 and 12.10 depending on which troubleshooting method I'm attempting.  I've reinstalled the damn OS at least four times as a result.  The whole thing seems to be a perfect storm of AMD ****ing over earlier Radeon owners with their "legacy" drivers (seriously my 4670 isn't all that old in the grand scheme of things), and some abject refusal of the OS itself to properly detect my video card and/or install drivers and/or not send me into package hell.  I wish it knew what you did about not needing to use the terminal, because I've already typed more sudos than I'd like to in a lifetime.

And I can't be the only person who feels like having to enter commands into a text prompt is better suited for the year 1993 than 2013.  I could do all this **** so much faster if everything had a nice GUI, instead of having to throw apt-get commands all over the place.

[Kopachris]

AMD ... Radeon

Well, there's your problem.  If you don't feel like taking the effort to get it working (and I wouldn't blame you--AMD/ATI has been a pain in Linux users' collective ass for years), hold off on Linux until either AMD gives us proper drivers or you get an nVidia card.

I wish it knew what you did about not needing to use the terminal, because I've already typed more sudos than I'd like to in a lifetime.

Installing Synaptic Package Manager will replace all your apt-get needs.

And I can't be the only person who feels like having to enter commands into a text prompt is better suited for the year 1993 than 2013.  I could do all this **** so much faster if everything had a nice GUI, instead of having to throw apt-get commands all over the place.

No, you're not the only one who feels that way.  GUIs are better for displaying data that needs to be searched through by human eyes (e.g. if you're searching for a package), but CLIs are faster when you already know what you need, especially if you can type fast.  And, contrary to what everyone tells you about being safe, if you do know what you're doing and you're the only one using the computer anyway, you can save a lot of time by logging in as root ("sudo su") so that you don't have to type "sudo" before everything.

[Mongoose]

I'd gladly hold off on all this for a while, but if I want to get that little penguin for TF2, I have to at least fire up the game on Linux before the end of the month, so that's what I'm shooting for.  (Hats, what can you do. ) Thanks for the Synaptic link though; I'll take a look at that.

Edit: And just like that, I finally have the Catalyst drivers up and running.  It's only thanks to some awesome person out there who created a custom package to enable the Catalyst legacy drivers in Ubuntu 12.10.  The drivers released by AMD only work up to some certain kernel value and X-org version, but 12.10 is newer in both regards, so they break by default.  (Theoretically they should work in 12.04, but it seemed like my kernel was already upgraded.)  This person wrote a package that downgrades X-org to the correct version, and tweaked the drivers to make them compatible with the latest kernel, so apparently it's all good now.

...dear lord I'm already starting to talk like them.

[Colonol Dekker]

Someone shortened the draw distance in London....

[deathfun]

Someone shortened the draw distance in London....

****ing host. Why'd he change the settings to that?

[Colonol Dekker]

It's rolling closer :/

ZE GHOSTS ARE COMINK!

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[Nuke]

And I can't be the only person who feels like having to enter commands into a text prompt is better suited for the year 1993 than 2013.  I could do all this **** so much faster if everything had a nice GUI, instead of having to throw apt-get commands all over the place.

No, you're not the only one who feels that way.  GUIs are better for displaying data that needs to be searched through by human eyes (e.g. if you're searching for a package), but CLIs are faster when you already know what you need, especially if you can type fast.  And, contrary to what everyone tells you about being safe, if you do know what you're doing and you're the only one using the computer anyway, you can save a lot of time by logging in as root ("sudo su") so that you don't have to type "sudo" before everything.

i kind of feel the same way. im one of the few people i know who read the complete ibm dos manual back in the day. so i know all the dos commands, which by a strange coincidence are the same commands more or less than the modern windows command line. dispite my proficiency in those commands i still prefer to use the gui. the only time i use the command line is when i need to do something really advanced, things i only need to do once in a blue moon.

linux users cant seem to get away from the terminal, even after many years of development. its actually a lot like the 9x line of windows. starting with a command line interface and sticking a gui into it, eventually refining it. but its roots are still firmly seated in the cli paradigm (which windows departed with the nt line). linux needs to pull the same move to really get out of the terminal. linux does seem to be improving though, but its still a huge time sink when compared to windows.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I think my brain is rusting. This is supposedly a Math question, but after seeing someone else's answer and reading their explanation of how they got the answer through elimination, I'm confused.

[Kopachris]

linux users cant seem to get away from the terminal, even after many years of development.

Nope.  With most modern distros, as long as your hardware works out of the box (which is most of it, except for AMD video chipsets and some audio cards EDIT: Oh, and most HP laptops I've used), you'll probably never have to touch the terminal unless you start tinkering.  Even then, there are GUI frontends for almost everything.

its actually a lot like the 9x line of windows. starting with a command line interface and sticking a gui into it, eventually refining it.

Maybe, but that's the only similarity.

but its roots are still firmly seated in the cli paradigm (which windows departed with the nt line).

Of course.  Why fix what ain't broke?

linux needs to pull the same move to really get out of the terminal.

Nope.  Mac OS X was able to create an arguably more refined GUI experience than Windows ever has without pulling away from the CLI paradigm (OS X is fully POSIX-compliant).

linux does seem to be improving though

Yep.

but its still a huge time sink when compared to windows.

Nope.  Just a different interface.  Whether or not it's a time sink depends on how much experience you have with it.  I'll grant you that CLIs generally have a steeper learning curve than GUIs, though.

[Klaustrophobia]

I think my brain is rusting. This is supposedly a Math question, but after seeing someone else's answer and reading their explanation of how they got the answer through elimination, I'm confused.

it's not strictly math, it's logic.  which is always thrown in with math in school.

[MP-Ryan]

I'm dual core nao!

Installed a Core 2 Duo (T5300) into my Acer Aspire 3680. Still running it on a 32-bit OS, but that'll be resolved later.

Somewhat concerned to see that PC Wizard saying that the temp inside both cores is around 60C, while the HDD and another temp sensor somewhere is at 50C. I don't know if this is an indication that I botched the thermal paste application or not just yet.

But, since it's literally a few minutes after the install, I don't know if it just means that I need time for the thermal paste to settle itself correctly.

Did those temps come down?  C2Ds should generally not be running anywhere near that hot unless under major load.

[Klaustrophobia]

i'm kinda tempted to see if i can install a new chip in my laptop now.  i was thinking about getting a new one entirely soon, but i really don't use it for much other than watching videos and some net surfing from my lazy ass position lying in bed.  i really just want it to have a bit more power so it won't lag in some flash apps/high res video, and it could stand a new fan.

[deathfun]

It's rolling closer :/

ZE GHOSTS ARE COMINK!

Pretty cool
Similar happens in Vancouver near every morning

[NGTM-1R]

I do so love that fogmonster over there about to eat one of the buildings.

[Firstdragon34]

That's quite the picture. 

[Polpolion]

Still fighting the Linux battle.  The fact that I have to use command-line package install tools in the year 2013 is kind of sad.

Why? apt-get, at the very least, is simpler and faster than any gui tool that I've ever seen.

edit: derp, i see your response now that i've posted:

And I can't be the only person who feels like having to enter commands into a text prompt is better suited for the year 1993 than 2013.  I could do all this **** so much faster if everything had a nice GUI, instead of having to throw apt-get commands all over the place.

Eh, GUIs have the benefit of being easier to learn if you've had no prior experience with them. But I think if you're experienced with both there's not much of a difference at all in usability, it's just that CLI tools have the benefit of being very script friendly. That's something that I don't think I've ever really seen GUI tools accomplish very well at all, and I find it to be a massive time saver.

E2: Granted there are exceptions, obviously. "gdb -tui ./progname" will just never be anywhere as good as any half decent graphical debugger (though admittedly I never really liked ddd enough to use it over plain ol gdb)

[z64555]

I'm dual core nao!

Installed a Core 2 Duo (T5300) into my Acer Aspire 3680. Still running it on a 32-bit OS, but that'll be resolved later.

Somewhat concerned to see that PC Wizard saying that the temp inside both cores is around 60C, while the HDD and another temp sensor somewhere is at 50C. I don't know if this is an indication that I botched the thermal paste application or not just yet.

But, since it's literally a few minutes after the install, I don't know if it just means that I need time for the thermal paste to settle itself correctly.

Did those temps come down?  C2Ds should generally not be running anywhere near that hot unless under major load.

It's down to about 46 to 48 C when idle now. The heatsink for the integrated graphics shares the same heat pipe as does the CPU, so that might have something to do with it. Also, I got the chip for $9.99, so I'm guessing somebody tried overclocking it at one point and ended up burning it out a tiny bit...

[FireSpawn]

My friend and I were playing Colonial Marines the other week on xbox, with his youtube favorites playing on his computer. It was during the opening cutscene that I noticed that Hicks' head and mouth movements coincided with the first song that was playing.
This was the result of the combination of a bad game and a mixture of energy drinks and junk food.

[deathfun]

Facebook dislikes my jokes about people killing hookers on their drinking nights out
It literally said "Nope"