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Offline Gortef

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L - Lorric/Retsof get Nuked!
Looks like my complete unemployment was a tad shot one. I got accepted to one 3D Printing course that includes working in a company for a few months. After that the Company has the possibility to hire me as a full timer and looks like they might have such intentions. Of course nothing is certain untill the time comes so keep the fingers crossed mates.
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Re: W-H-I-Y-L - Lorric/Retsof get Nuked!
I only just heard about the jennifer lawrence thing and appear to have missed out doh.
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Re: W-H-I-Y-L - Lorric/Retsof get Nuked!
I only just heard about the jennifer lawrence thing and appear to have missed out doh.

Missed out on the gross violation of privacy of several prominent women?  Gee, that's awful.  Sorry dude, but not cool.
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Oh come on who cares? They are women, it's not like as if they are people or something.

 

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L - Lorric/Retsof get Nuked!
My question is more along the lines of what kind of idiot uploads their home-made porn to an online cloud anyway?

 

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Re: W-H-I-Y-L - Lorric/Retsof get Nuked!
My question is more along the lines of what kind of idiot uploads their home-made porn to an online cloud anyway?

What kind of idiot puts up photos of the party they attended when they were on sick leave on Facebook, which their boss can then see?

I don't think security tech illiteracy can really be thought of as a wtf-moment anymore.  Pragmatically, security-conscious people are aware that you should be extremely careful what sort of information you store on line.  In principle, however, these celebrities should be able to store whatever personal information they please in the Cloud knowing that it will be deleted when they delete it (Apple: "What an amusing joke.  Ha ha. No, you're serious?  Forget it, mine now suckers!") and knowing if should be protected as private information, not exposed by some jackass script-kiddies with too much time and an inherent disrespect for other people.

Also, Piers Morgan got lambasted as a victim-blamer for posting more or less your exact statement to twitter, so beware of mob.
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Ermagerd flipserrrd why would you say such a therrrrrrrng

Privacy means very these days, specially if you're someone who's known to the world. People look for dirt to smudge famous people with, even back before internet existed. I find it's the job of these celebrities to ensure that if dirt exists, that you can't find it unless in a case of breaking and entering

While you're right about the in principle part MP, principle doesn't stop people. Only you can prevent your porn from being distributed

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Heh, it's not really about victim blaming, it's just a really stupid thing to do, It's not so much about the crime as about the simple act of uploading your home-made porn to an internet cloud. It's kind of like storing your bank details in one of those storage lockers you can hire. You have no idea who has access to it.

Now, maybe they didn't know they had uploaded the stuff to the cloud, maybe the system auto-uploads or something and in that case a certain amount of head-desking is removed, however, if they chose to upload that kind of thing to the cloud, it was an idiotic thing to do.

 

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Heh, it's not really about victim blaming, it's just a really stupid thing to do, It's not so much about the crime as about the simple act of uploading your home-made porn to an internet cloud. It's kind of like storing your bank details in one of those storage lockers you can hire. You have no idea who has access to it.

Now, maybe they didn't know they had uploaded the stuff to the cloud, maybe the system auto-uploads or something and in that case a certain amount of head-desking is removed, however, if they chose to upload that kind of thing to the cloud, it was an idiotic thing to do.

Don't fret, you're in good company.  Eugene Volokh agrees with you (as do I, for that matter):  http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/09/03/nude-pictures-hackers-advice-blame-freedom-and-timing/
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Re: W-H-I-Y-L - Lorric/Retsof get Nuked!
Wired reports that the security breach may have been thieves downloding device backups rather than individual files.  That's a lot harder to blame someone for.

 

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In fairness, I believe you do still need the email and password to get access to backup files, which suggests either some kind of additional data theft or that most stars have the password generation skills of the Druidian King...

 

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I think it's just bad faith to point fingers at apple for this. It's a hard problem to figure out how precisely one should harmonize convenience with safety. I think Gruber was spot on here:
http://daringfireball.net/2014/09/security_tradeoffs

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Don’t trust Apple “with any of your data” isn’t just wrong because it’s a hyperbolic overreaction, it’s wrong because it’s potentially dangerous. What has been mostly overlooked in the reaction to this photo leak scandal, and completely lost in Auerbach’s argument, is that backups are a form of security — in the same sense that life insurance is a form of security for your children and spouse.

Over the years I’ve received numerous emails from past and former Genius Bar support staff, telling similar stories of heartbreak. Customer comes in, their iPhone completely broken, or lost, or stolen, and they had precious photos and videos on it. The birth of a child. The last vacation they ever took with a beloved spouse who has since passed away. Did they ever back up their iPhone to a Mac or PC with iTunes? No. In many cases they don’t even know what “iTunes on a PC” even means. Or maybe they connected the iPhone to iTunes once, the day they bought it and needed to activate it, and then never again.

This happened to thousands of people. It’s why Apple made cloud-based backups one of the fundamental pillars of iCloud. It still happens, today, to people who haven’t signed up for iCloud and enabled iCloud backups. It’s heartbreaking in most cases, and downright devastating in some. I’ve heard from Genius Bar staffers who eventually left the job because of the stress of dealing with customers suffering data loss. Once it is determined that the photos and videos are irretrievable from the device and have never been backed up, the job of the Genius staffer turns from technician to grief counselor. Bereavement is not too strong a word.

iCloud backups have not eliminated this problem, but they have made it far less common. This is, like almost everything in tech, a trade-off:

- Your data is far safer from irretrievable loss if it is synced/backed up, regularly, to a cloud-based service.

- Your data is more at risk of being stolen if it is synced/backed up, regularly, to a cloud-based service.

Ideally, the companies that provide such services minimize the risk of your account being hijacked while maximizing the simplicity and ease of setting it up and using it. But clearly these two goals are in conflict. There’s no way around the fact that the proper balance is somewhere in between maximal security and minimal complexity.

(a bit funny to read how first world problems go, but still he has a point)

 

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backup your own files to your own external drives and put them in a safe somewhere. that way your porn doesn't wind up on pornhub.
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Tonight has been a good ( if bitter-sweet) night.
Earlier today I got a call from a job I interviewed for, asking when I could start so that they could sort a starting date.
Then I went to a variety show where my best friend was singing.

Here's where the bitter-sweet comes in. A girl I really like was there, and I've been getting to knowledge her a little over the summer. Due to a few things we've only been able to meet up a few times over the summer, an being the coward I am, never directly told her that I liked her.
Tonight I found out that she's going to Bradford for Uni tomorrow.

Again, I let her go without saying that I like her, but how happy I am that she got into uni.

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If you really like her, give her a call and see if you can talk before she leaves.

Life is about making choices; the sum of them is who you are. Tell me, Firespawn, do you ever risk things? Because if you don't try, you never win.

Take it from someone who lives with regrets.

 

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and I've been getting to knowledge her a little over the summer

Yessss.... knooowledge her
KNOWLEDGE ALL OF HER
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I should have been born with whiskers and a tail, because I'm  ****ing Pussy

Yes, not keeping someone from higher education totally makes you that :P
I wouldn't fret over liking someone and then seeing them bring their lives to where they want to be despite it not being with you. Afterall, it'd be difficult for them to include you in the plans they've already made on such short notice.

Accept it, move on. There is no risk to take here that'll bring you good fortune or charm

To accept this is a choice unto itself, and it makes you someone into someone who doesn't just think about what he wants.
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@An4ximandros Hindsight bias, much?

@deathfun: yeah I noticed that too but wasn't going to say anything.

 

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I think it's just bad faith to point fingers at apple for this. It's a hard problem to figure out how precisely one should harmonize convenience with safety.

Agreed, though this makes it apparent that they should require more than a simple username and password to access device backups.

 

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Yessss.... knooowledge her
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Hey, if that's the only mistake I made while drunk and posting from my phone at 3:00 am, I done well. Need I remind us of Dekker's drunk posts?
If you hit it and it bleeds, you can kill it. If you hit it and it doesn't bleed...You are obviously not hitting hard enough.

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